Joe Rogan Cancels the Cancelers

So far, I see nothing to support his statement. As the person making this contention, it's on you to provide support for it.

They’re paying him $100 million, how the fuck does that not make him their employee? He can’t post his stuff on any other site, so regardless of what he or they might claim, he’s working for them, and thus an employee.

He can still post shit on YT.

Not full episodes, just clips. If he was truly a free agent, he could post his stuff wherever.

You seem to be mixing up two entirely different things.

It's quite possible that Rogans contract with Spotify spells out that they have no creative control over the content of his show.

However that doesn't mean the contract guarantees that they have to provide him a platform for his show no matter what.

All that said I don't think Spotify would kick him off unless things got a lot worse in terms of artist withdrawals than they currently are, no matter what they will do they would get a backlash and right now removing Rogans show would probably cause more of his fans to cancel their accounts.

Accurate statement.

Has anyone under the age of 70 removed their music from Spotify? Maybe a Swift or a Beyoncé? Because this music protest seems to be for fans who don’t know what a podcast or a Spotify is…

It begs the question. I certainly wouldn’t if I were an up and coming artist, I’d want as much exposure as possible.

Does any artist under 70 own the rights to their own music?

Chris Brown and Rihanna came up fairly quickly on Google.

You need to understand the phrase "educated guess" before using it. Here, you are not guessing anything at all. You are making a statement based on something Rogan said.

Nothing about your statement infers an "educated guess". For you to make an "educated guess" in this context, you would have to know about how typical contracts between Spotify and their podcasters stipulate terms; or you'd have to know about ... no. that's it. to make an educated guess, you'd have to know how typical contracts between Spotify and their podcasters stipulate terms.

Back in the day, Phil Donahue would have skinheads, and Klanners, and every other goddamned thing on his show, but he wouldn't let them spew their shit unquestioned, he'd let the audience have a go at them, and then he'd have callers.
He didn't sit there like a slug like Rogan and go "oh, yeah, that's really interesting, that's a good point".
If Rogan were just a comedy show, fine, but he tries pretends to be Donahue, and he ain't Donahue.
If Donahue still had a show, he'd have the alt-med/anti-vax people on, but he'd have real doctors on to counter their bullshit.
Well...alt-med and alt-right swine wouldn't go on Donahue now, they'd run and hide on Fox News like cowards, like they've done the past 25 fucking years.
There's a whole generation now that grew up on it being normalized to be in a bubble.
God, I miss Donahue. No one does a show like that anymore.
Don't know if you could pull it off in this world.

Springer and Steve Wilcos are still on the air.

I’m sure there’s plenty of artists under 70 that own the rights to their own music.

It depends. Taylor Swift only owns some of the rights to her music, that’s why she re-recorded her first few albums so that she’d have the rights to those recordings. I’d be willing to bet that a lot of the younger artists don’t have very many rights, if any. The music industry is a pretty shitty industry at times.

Which is why Napster should have killed it instead of turning into I-Tunes.
What a horrible timeline we live in.

I was thinking of people like Dr. Dre and Jay-Z.

I even want to thank the haters.

What a great guy.

They might not have control of their earliest recordings. Generally, you have to give that shit up in order to get your first record contract. If you’re lucky, you buy them at a later point in your career.

Prince Harry and Meghan blast Rogan and Spotify in an open letter (NewsWeek)

Ah, yes, the not-royals whose main business these days is media drama. That oughta get average Americans on board with the cause.

Lol

There is a difference between a WWE-style melee, giving shitheads a free ride and thoughtful discussions with people whose views might be regarded as reprehensible. Unfortunately, programs where there is substantive discussion are few and far between.

Mostly the last bit.

So now Joe Rogan is responsible for this guy's bad decisions?

Is somebody saying that?

I wonder what the point of posting that if not to blame Rogan for this guy's death.

I don't necessarily blame Rogan for anyone's death, although I'm sure some do. The greater point seems to be that we put people upon pedestals and trust them, when they don't know who we are, nor do they care. The relationship is one way--our trust, our appreciation, our love all go to the icon, and the icon has no responsibility--or even capacity, if loved by thousands or millions--to reciprocate. It's that elevator meme from Mad Men, writ large.

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