Kids Eat Free In Cali! ♥

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  1. Nyx

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    YYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY! :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

    California Will Launch The Nation's Largest Free Student Lunch Program
    Source: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/1018267303/california-free-lunch-public-schools

    Now we need to make this nationwide. ♥
     
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  2. Lanzman

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    Please stop referring to these things as "free." It might be free to the kids, but everyone in Cali is paying for it with even higher taxes. The current surplus will not last.
     
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    It must be so hard for you to drive on a road or walk down a sidewalk or pass by a building that's not on fire without screeching "THIS ISN'T FREE THIS ISN'T FREE SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR IT WITH THEIR TAXES." :(

    I can't even imagine what a barrel of laughs you are at Red Lobster. "THAT DIET COKE REFILL ISN'T FREE THOSE EXTRA BISCUITS AREN'T FREE THEIR COST IS ACTUALLY FACTORED INTO THE OVERALL PRICE OF THE MEAL" :ohnoes:
     
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  4. Nyx

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    Are the kids paying for it? No? Then the kids are eating free.

    Quit being an old crusty bastard and enjoy the fact that for a moment kids will be able to eat without having to prove they're poor.

    Fucking Christ.
     
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    Please stop acting like a fucking idiot who doesn't understand how taxes work and how they "promote the general welfare".
     
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    Bruh, it's LUNCH FOR KIDS. I fucking live here, we're gonna have to spread our assholes like goatse on taxes regardless, but for once my tax dollars are going towards something that's unequivocally a good thing. The food is bought at pennies on the dollars.

    I'm more pissed about the $4000 a year in income taxes that goes to the rich welfare cheats like Bezos and his butt buddy Elon Musk and the Walton family as their employees have to sign up for food stamps as part of their new hire orientation.
     
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    Thank you, guy-who-would-not-shut-up-in-my-Econ-101-class. Really helpful stuff.
     
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    Or the fact that our tax money pays Lanzman to do a job that is destructive rather than constructive. I'd rather let some poor kids get a shitty cafeteria sandwich than continue to pay Lanz's salary, but that's the price we pay for living in a society: our tax money doesn't always go to what we want or to something that directly benefits us.
     
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    I wonder if the Republicans will sue to try to stop this program. Oh who are we kidding, of course they will. They are literally to the point of taking food out of the mouths of kids.
     
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    Fast forward a few years, conservative voters will be saying "but I didn't think the party that promised to steal candy from babies would steal my candy too!!"
     
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  11. Nyx

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    Believe it or not, this was a bipartisan effort.

    Yeah, shocked the fuck out of me, too:

    We call this empathy, and I was afraid it had become extinct in our halls of government.

    Anyway, they continue:
     
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    :lol: says the guy who enjoys his lifestyle thanks to a (constitutionally-mandated!) taxpayer-funded job.
     
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    Do I claim my job is provided to you "for free"? Hell, it's not provided to me for free. It's quite likely that I pay more in taxes than you do.

    The issue, for the slow among you, is the propensity of the reality-impaired to constantly demand some governmental benefit "for free," meaning no charge to them at point of service. Or conversely to proclaim that some new benefit or program will be "free." And that is never, ever true. Government can't spend a dollar on Peter that it hasn't first taxed or otherwise appropriated from Paul. Put another way, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
     
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  14. Nyx

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    The thread title: "Kids eat free in Cali! ♥"
    Me: [ explains why kids will have free lunches at school ]
    WF: "Oh good, no more kids being denied lunch because they have no money."
    You: "There's no such thing as a free lunch!"

    Do you not see where you went wrong here?

    Think about it: I get angry because my tax money goes to bombing people in other countries. It makes me angry. Finally, FINALLY, tax money is being used to feed hungry children, and you're complaining about it.

    What. The. Fuck. Lanz?
     
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    Hi. I'm from Canada.
     
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  16. Nyx

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    I honor you with an image of the Canadian national anthem:
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    A good number of our elected Republicans are more Blue Dog Democrats who are at a bare minimum not incline to be as blatantly overt in using bigotry to win votes.. I won't say that's 100% certain that a Ted Cruz or MTG wouldn't get elected here, but there's a reason all our recalls of governors get aimed at Democrats. :shrug:
     
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  18. Nyx

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    I see what you mean. For me it was that empathy moment he had. He saw kids stealing scraps of food from other lunches because that's all they had to eat. Goddamn, it should send a stab of pain through someone's heart to read about that, and if he saw it, and actually wanted to do something about it, well good on him, and every single legislator who put aside their petty bullshit and said that, if nothing else, they could feed kids.
     
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    Son, come pull up a chair and let us tell you what kind of taxes we pay up here in Canada

    I just paid $80,000 in property transfer tax just because I moved from one home to another, we can start there
     
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    Once more, for the slow . . .
    I'm not complaining about the program. I'm "complaining" about it being described as free when it's not free. It's free to the kids at the point of service but it's still being paid for by taxes.
    If that's too complicated for you, I can't help you any further.
    Without digging out my tax return I don't have actual numbers in front of me, but for my 2020 taxes just at the federal level I paid at least that much.
     
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    Quick! Everybody pull out their tax returns so we can see how big your dicks are!
     
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    :lol: You think I'm gonna reveal my finances to you lot? Who do you think I am, Dayton?
     
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    Who said it was free for anyone but the kids? Everyone here knows it's taxpayer funded. Most seem to be glad by the idea kids won't be embarrassed because they don't have money to pay for their lunch, they just get to eat, which is the real takeaway from all of this.
     
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    I luv me some free lunch. Especially when other people pay for it.
     
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    I'd love it if we could skim $100 billion off of our $785 billion a year defense budget and just feed everyone. "Free*" lunches for every child in the US, and hell, every adult, too. We could do it, and I'd rather my tax money go to feeding the hungry rather than building a few planes we'll use once or twice and then toss it out for the new multi-billion dollar contract.


    *for Lanz' benefit.
     
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    UBI.
     
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    I'd get rid of much of that by recalling all foreign military deployments (for one thing, among many. don't fucking start with the demanding a laundry list), then return that tax money to the citizens who paid it, for them to use as they see fit.
     
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    That's over and above what I pay on income tax (close to 50%), national goods and service tax, provincial tax, carbon tax, liquor tax (substantial), etc etc etc :ehrie:
     
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    I really see no reason why free (or "free at point of service," for the pedantically inclined) school lunches shouldn't be universal in all districts.

    Collect a little less in lunch money, but do away with the administrative costs of tracking every student's account, processing payments, and means-testing to see who gets it for free and who doesn't.

    In many states, districts where at least 50% of students are free-and-reduced already make it universal. Doing it across the board isn't much of a stretch.
     
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