Late Term Abortion

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  1. MiniBorg

    MiniBorg Bah Humbug

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    Linky

    Read this, thought of Wordforge. Summary is bolded for the 'tl;dr' crowd.

  2. Tamar Garish

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    I don't know a single person against this sort of abortion.
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  3. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    I don't understand it very well, but it sounds to me like there were medical conditions involved, which doesn't make this a 'late term abortion' issue, but a pregnancy terminated due to medical conditions 'issue.'

    And even the hardcore pro-life people I know have no problem with an abortion being terminated if 'either' life is at risk.
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  4. Tamar Garish

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    In fact, I find it incredibly bizarre that this woman was at an abortion clinic and not a hospital for her procedure. :bailey:
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    No, they just nominate themselves to dole out their unsolicited and unqualified approval.
  6. MiniBorg

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    I imagine because it counts as an abortion, which being too far gone along to be legal in some states, meant she had to travel to Tiller? Acc. to another article, that's what lots of others had to do;

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    Murder is a crime and is wrong, and some people feel a crime is being allowed to be committed on the unborn. Just because you disagree, doesn't make your opinion any more valid than theirs.
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    Depends on whether I own the uterus in question or not.
  9. MiniBorg

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    It would seem that there ARE some people against it;

    Evidentally, there are many people not willing to consider that they don't know what's going on in that persons life, because they're of the believe that all abortion is wrong all the time.
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    Over one million abortions a year, and pro abortion people have to troll high and low to find a handful of these cases.
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    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Personally, I don't think the issue is as black and white as that.

    Is there a reason to abort a perfectly healthy baby at 6 months? I don't believe there is. But at 3 months when the mother first finds out, I might support the procedure.

    After a certain timeframe, be it 3, 4, 5, or 6 months, outside of medical reasons, I don't believe abortion should be legal.

    As long as the mother has adequate time to decide after she learns that she is pregnant. After that, sorry, but a baby at 6 months, IIRC...can survive outside of the mother.
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    Late term abortion is generally wrong because the child is viable. In cases like this it isn't and so there is no issue in my eyes beyond the personal tragedy of the parents.
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    I see no reason not to use the same standard for start of life as we do for end of life. When brain function starts( Roughly the 6 month point).
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    I would not presume to say. Can't imagine many doing it lightly, though.
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    Would you consider a born child "yours"?
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    There is NO state in the US where any abortion is illegal if there is a threat of life to the mother or the child is 100% non-viable. I am anti-abortion, and I would cheerfully slit the throat of any asshat motherfucker who dared do anything but support a human being like this poor woman in such a tragic state.

    Being anti-abortion (for all but a few fruits) means opposing medically unnecessary abortions, NOT in cases like this.

    Why she was at the clinic is a VERY good question.
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    The sources I have checked show brain waves begin after about 2 months. Where does the 6-month figure come from?

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    Full Alpha, Theta, and Delta rhythms do not kick in until 6-7 months as various organs start to mature.
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    Have you ever seen an anencephalic foetus? Do they even have such brain waves?

    The test for such a disorder is usually done during the second trimester, but it only has a sensitivity of about 80% (meaning about 20% of actual cases are missed).

    Most anencephalic babies won't survive birth, and few will live more than a couple hours after birth. But some might live a little longer, with intensive care. If you think it's wrong to abort after a Down Syndrome or other mental handicap diagnosis because it's not only murder - it's genocide! then what about anencephalic babies?
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  22. Bailey

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    I actually meant to start a thread on this subject a while ago, because one interesting implication of the beliefs of those who hold that the human "soul" (or whatever you want to call it) is imbued on a person at conception is that anencephalic babies have souls. Imagine that, a soul trapped in a body with no brain to allow it to communicate or even understand itself.
  23. Shirogayne

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    I'll say what I've always said about abortion: It should never, ever be a first line of birth control.

    In the case of a child that will at best live less than a week if full term and won't have even a hope of survival, I can't blame a parent for not going full term.