Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are....

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  1. enlisted person

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    not dying in. Then when we go to war they protest the war. What the fuck have we lost in Syria? So, they are using gas, so did saddam and it was an "illegal war" going after him. Why should we be giving military support to the rebels in a civil war? First send in some "advisers" like JFK did, that is what I predict will happen next. Supply weapons and escalate the war. I am sure the Russians will like making the money.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPP :elflat:
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Given that it has been, almost exclusively, Republicans (and a lot of them) demanding we join the war in Syria... Well, I'd say you're being even more stupid than usual in that post.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Except that its the current administration(look it up) that is offering military support to the syrian rebels and picking sides in a civil war. How many of them are republicans exactly Einstein?
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    He's offering to give them some undisclosed weapons and ammo, just like a great many Republicans have been demanding he do for over a year now, not actually risking US forces in combat.

    Get it right.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    We should give the rebels just enough support to keep them in the game, not enough for them to win. A longer civil war between asshole group A and asshole group B works just fine for me. Do I fit your stereotype EP?
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Oh, look, EP wants attention.

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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    :rofl:
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    If we wanted to end that war we could do that in a matter of hours but everyone knows they won't do that. Why take decisive action when you can put boots on the ground and let it drag out for years? When you pick sides in a civil war that is what happens. Obama wants to create another chaotic Muslim state like Egypt and Libya and what will that benefit the people of those lands? If we enter a war, we need to bring all our might to bear and drop the hammer and get it over with as fast as possible. Fuck winning hearts and minds and all that liberal horseshit that has failed us since Korea. All that should not be a consideration once we decide to take military action. Also the media should be afforded no permissions or protections in a war zone.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    I thought what made liberals unhappy was Americans enjoying anything that doesn't line some government official's pockets.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Do you think war does not line the pockets of government. Liberals want war so they can say "look we can fight a war overseas but we can't provide free XYZ to the crack whores in the ghettos". It has always been there design, they support something long enough to get it started and then use it as an excuse for funding some free ride program to get votes. Another example of that is the space program apollo missions. The democrats were all about going to the moon so they could say "we can send a man the moon but we can't afford free XYZ for the crack whores"
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    If you're talking about glassing the Middle East, even an intellectual primordial drawf such as yourself can see the type of Pandora's box that would be opened up with that decision.

    But that out the way, that in retrospect was a huge problem with the Iraq conflict. There were no long-term goals, and the number of troops sent were considerably less than many said were needed at the time. This would have been an issue, even if they had found something over there. I honestly think that we had no business playing world police in Syria, it's now one more conflict for us to be involved in and stretch out the decreasing number of troops and resources we have.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    When EP gets up in the morning and wipes the drool off his face, after recovering from the previious night's blackout, what do you suppose goes through his little mind?

    "Hello world, I'm gonna show 'em today?"

    "Damn those internet libs?"

    "What time does the liquor store open?"

    "Where's my retainer?"

    "Has mummy bought Captain Crunch for breakfast?"

    It is a mystery.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Of course it does, and that's why liberals are fine with it -- provided, of course, that there's a (D) after the name of the ringleader.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Jesus, kill yourself. :midnightsuicide:
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    :tbbs:
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    We should stay the fuck out of it.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Time to get into the war profiteering business?
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    I'm not favoring any kind of major intervention. I just don't like the idea of Assad regaining full control. The US, Israel, and Turkey, are all better off if he's distracted by internal issues. Keep them fighting with each other for as long as we can, and the region is overall more peaceful. Remember the Iran-Iraq war? Iraq became a problem once it wasn't distracted by Iran. Let the fuckers kill each other instead of us.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    OMG I actually agree with our walking beer bottle.

    Syria is an incredible can of worms. Neither side is 'good', and neither side will be an advantage for the people there or the west. Obama's decision is plain wrong (I hate to say it but that's been the case a lot lately) - as is Russia's, France's and the UK's. If he wanted to end this right now, he could, within a week I gather. Of course we'd have a Libya situation but nobody says we're unable to learn from mistakes: you need boots on the ground to control the situation afterwards. Bombing a country into the stone age alone will just encourage extremist groups to fill a power vacuum.

    Syria should be off limits. Nothing good will come from meddling there. But if we absolutely have to, do it quick, hard and right. Sending modern weapons to the islamist rebels will just drag this out for a few more years. This latest decision just tells me that the fate of Syrian civilians is of no concern whatsoever.

    I say let them at it. Sooner or later, they will make Israel angry enough to end this.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    When did John McCain become a "liberal" ?
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    Then what? Another murdering dictator takes his place?
    They can do that without us. We interfere, and it could all backfire. Niether side is our friend.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    I think you are missing the part of the plan that involves helping them only enough to ensure they don't lose. I completely agree with your last sentence, which is why I want to keep them fighting.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    While I don't necessarily favour intervention, I don't agree that this is the choice being faced, and I certainly don't agree that "letting the fuckers kill each other" to be an acceptable outcome if something can be done. There are 90,000 dead at this point, and a lot of them are women and children.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    if the west was serious about the dead, it would end the conflict right there. it's not.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    You may be right that "the west" don't care, but I doubt that ending the conflict would be so simple.
    And the implicit assumption here is that we could or should take one side and bring overwhelming violence to bear to ensure that they win. I'd say that a more diplomatic approach should also be looked at.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    'end the bloodshed' might be the better choice of words.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    The problem is that the diplomatic approach has arguably failed where Syria is concerned. Assad has displayed clearly that he is determined to push on no matter what, and with even Iranian support beginning to dwindle he pushes on. He's a classic dictator of the Hussein/Mugabe variety, just a little less overt with his rhetoric. He's not playing ball. That puts us in a difficult position. Do we intervene and put a wildcard in his place or do we hope that Assad begins to succumb to international pressure? Either way is a lottery and either way people who don't deserve to die will die nonetheless.

    That is the reality of the world, which is why the opinions of dribbling morons like EP make me feel embarrassment at the two dimensional stupidity festering in the West.
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    How?
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    Re: Liberals are not happy when there is a war going on in the world that Americans are...

    It has within the parameters that have been tried so far, which have been mostly to condemn and sanction the Assad regime.