McCain attacks Palin's inexperience

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  1. Ryan

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    Way back in the primaries. If only he'd had a crystal ball!

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    So, Palin's on the job experience as a governor and mayor (that McCain didn't get) makes here more qualified than even McCain?

    :wtf:
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  4. Nova

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    Time to trot out the Biden-on-Obama quotes again?
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  6. Ward

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    You can't do any better than this? :rolleyes:

    Obviously, you haven't figured out that grownups were talking serious matters in this conversation. You heard what you wanted to hear and pulled it completely out of context.

    Of course, the NYT isn't going to make it obvious that's what they were doing (or are they?) but they certainly knew where their "highly educated" readers would go with it.
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    You mean the ones where he really was talking about the person in question?
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    OK, I'll bite. What was the New York Times doing? Apart from, back in 2007, publishing a word-for-word transcript of a debate? Because that's what the link is to.
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  9. Ryan

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    Uh, no. Try again.
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    So do you think it's irrelevant that he criticized Romney for what he has now decided isn't an issue for Palin?
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  11. Ward

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    Oops - I missed the date. I assumed they had rerun the transcript of an old debate recently.

    My remarks about Ryan still hold, though...
  12. Ward

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    Yes. Romney was running for president. Palin is not.
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  13. Ward

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    Even garamet gets it, people...
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    Getting this in early.

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    Interesting. So if somebody asked McCain if Palin is qualified to be president, he'd say "Well, no, but she's qualified to be vice president"? Because somehow I can't picture that.
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  16. Ryan

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    Are you implying I'm not really an ivory tower elitist? :mad:
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  17. Ward

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    He hasn't put her forth as a presidential candidate. Obviously he thinks she's qualified for VP - a position she could use as a stepping-stone to the presidency.

    Unless, of course, you're a Democrat and don't worry about experience. Because, Lord knows, she's got more foreign policy experience than Bill Clinton and a truck load more judgment.
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    Indeed. Palin was a mayor for a long time.
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    AND a governor.

    So if you combine Romney with Giulianni...








    You get a porn movie nobody wants to see!
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  21. Nova

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    Well, to be fair, I'm sure McCain thinks that he (McCain) IS more qualified than Palin so that would be consistent with he previous quote.

    I think using the quote here perpetuates the misconception of the last two weeks that being VP is exactly like being President.

    MANY have been the VP candidates who were not as qualified for the top job as the man at the head of the ticket.
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    If nothing happens to the president. If it does, she damn well better be equipped to deal with a crisis.
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    That's true. I went back to the transcript to see if there was more context to McCain's comment -- was he saying Romney wasn't qualified, or just that Romney wasn't as qualified as McCain? -- but it turns out the comment was in response to a question about which one of them was more conservative.
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    False distinction.

    McCain is a 72 year old and 4 time cancer survivor. In the very real possibility of something bad happeneing to him (God forbid), by choosing Palin as his running mate, he has conceeded Obama's point that while experience is good, judgement is the true measure of a good leader.
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  25. BearTM

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    And Palin has Obama outmatched in both experience AND judgement.
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    Comedy gold...
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  27. Nova

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    Like Edwards was, for instance?
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    Edwards isn't running on the ticket with McCain. Palin is.
  29. Nova

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    Very little more so than for anyone else running for the office.

    The life expectancy for a person who's attained the age of 67 is 18 years (i.e. 85) and McCain has no history of issues which cause sudden death (heart,circulation stuff)

    He's had MELANOMA which is not life threatening, easily detectable and treatable, and a total non-issue in terms of life and death.

    COULD he drop dead of a stroke? Yeah. So could you or I or Obama.

    If he did, she would have had whatever time she spent between now and then "in the loop" (BEFORE shouldering the load, something BO won't have) plus the full range of advisers which normally surround a president.

    The reason folks say that Palin has better experience than Obama is not the time spent but the nature of the job. there's a real qualitative difference between executive experience and legislative experience.

    It's obviously debatable how much the relative value makes a difference, but it's not a baseless claim.

    Nevertheless, anyone willing to vote for Obama cannot, by definition, charge her with being unqualified on experience.

    You CAN assert that the Palin supporter likewise can't say that about Obama either....but you still can't make the case against her.
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  30. Nova

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    Who did you vote for in 2004?
    :D
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