I'm gonna go out ona limb and say this movie is not for you. Save your money and stay home. As a bonus, you don't have to post about it anymore either.
Worried about your audience insert character being undersold? As Hulks go, you're more Savage Banner, turning back into the weedy guy but so fucking dumb even TLS could outwit him.
Saw Cap 4 tonight. Short review: Enjoyed it. Can't imagine that if you are at all inclined to watch a comic book movie that you wouldn't have a reasonably good time. It's fashionable for critics to hate on Marvel movies these days but I would say this is firmly in the top third of Marvel movies. To address UA's question, there's about 5 minutes of Cap fighting Red Hulk, and Cap of course has some lines that are corny but somehow get pulled off, IMO. I'd be up for going to see it again on the big screen even though tickets are now a whopping $30 with tax and the online ordering fee. This was my first in-theater movie since Deadpool & Wolverine, which was only about $22, so some sticker shock. Some additional thoughts under spoiler tags: Decided to add some additional nitpicks and thoughts under a new spoiler tag:
I saw "Captain America : Brave New World" last night & found it to be a fun exciting enjoyable adventurous romp. Captain America is one of those comic book characters I have very little familiarity with aside from seeing his image & his comics on comic book store shelves. I've never seen the previous MCU Captain America flick(s) either. But Brave New World was great fun to see in the movie theater up on a huge screen. Do I recommend others go see it in the movie theaters while it's still out? Definitely!
Hoping to see it tomorrow if the damn snow stops falling, but this seems like another case of the critics going one way and the audiences going another. (Critics are pooping on the movie while audience reviews are generally pretty fabourable.)
Saw it yesterday. Thought it was great. Best Harrison Ford performance in a while. Some of my friends were a bit confused since they don’t keep up with all the Marvel stuff. I totally get that and it is a big detriment to stuff like this. At minimum you need to watch The Incredible Hulk movie and the Falcon and Winter Soldier miniseries. This is a sequel to both. I am looking forward to the Fantastic Four movie, hopefully it will finally be done right.
Go woke, go broke! Captain America 4 Flies To a Brave New Box Office Brave New World isn't just making money, it's also surpassing expectations and opening weekends for earlier Captain America movies.
This is not a good thing and it's pretty bizarre in a movie based on a nationalist icon which also contains a character that was originally a Mossad agent.
While it is a sequel to both, there is no actual need to have seen either. The film explicitly has exposition that tells you what you need to know for plot purposes. Indeed, the exposition that they include strikes me as someone who is familiar with that background as forced and raising more questions for those of us well-versed in the MCU. For instance: Not that there aren't answers to these various questions or that they affected my enjoyment of the movie.
Marvel movies don't *actually* expect you to have watched all 308 preceding movies and 41 TV series to understand what's going on in them? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!
Saw it last night. I was underwhelmed, but I don't think it was as bad as some critics are making it out to be. Tying it back to the Eternals (somewhat) was a big mistake in my opinion, as Marvel should just DCEU that whole storyline and pretend it never happened. When the credits started rolling -- especially the vague post-credits scene -- I couldn't help but get the feeling that this film's entire purpose was simply to set up Phase 6, and they worked backward from that premise. Enjoyable but largely forgettable.
I think referencing Eternals was actually a strength. If you want to preserve the strength of a shared universe, you can't pick and choose what to keep. You've got to embrace the bad with the good, and hopefully make something good with it. Of course, I didn't think Eternals was the worst MCU film by far. But I know it was hardly anyone's favorite. Still, it's better to embrace everything, because we shouldn't give people the idea that anything can just be scrubbed away willy-nilly, or it undercuts the whole point of an interconnected universe.
Agreed! Oh, like Kang the Conquerer? Man, whatever happened to him? That's the beauty of the multiverse. In my head-canon, Thanos snapped away the Eternals universe.
We can consider Kang gone if we want to, thanks to Loki and Quantumania. Or he can come back. He's in literary limbo at the moment. Of course, deciding to dump Kang because of Majors is stupid. They should have just recast him AND Boseman as well. As for the quality of Eternals, these are the MCU films i'd rank it higher than: Thor: The Dark World Thor: Love and Thunder Black Widow Captain Marvel The Marvels Shang-Chi And if we want to include miniseries: Secret Wars Ms. Marvel What If? So yeah, for me, it's far from the worst.
People's mileage will vary. But I would say the Eternals was better than only Thor: The Dark World, Love and Thunder and Black Widow (and Secret Invasion and S3 of What If?, and Inhumans and Iron Fist if those count). TDW was too boring, L&T had too many humor misfires, BW had too many plot holes. Secret Invasion was just a terrible, nonsensival misfire all around, Inhumans was something I had no interest in after the first couple of episodes, and Iron First's star was poorly cast. Recasting Chadwick Boseman was (I presume) an issue of real-world politics. I am fairly sure that if Marvel had tried it, Ryan Coogler and a good chunk of the cast would have wanted nothing to do with the sequel. Which, given how well the first movie went, would have been not the best of moves, business-wise, creative-wise or PR-wise.
This will do around $200m domestic. Right between "...Quantumania" and "Eternals." Better than just "...the First Avenger"...until you factor in inflation. Then it will be the shittiest grossing Captain America movie.
Hint: Hollywood isn't really concerned about domestic box office, and hasn't been for more than two decades. In that regard, Brave New World has already crossed the $200-million mark in worldwide box office receipts, just in its first week. And I think if anything is holding the film back right now in global markets, it's the fact that it has "America" in its title. Suck it, hater.
Cheering for the failure of Black Captain America? It looks like you're going to be disappointed. But you can go drown your sorrows with Unkle Albert.
I'll go with $250M global box office for a total worldwide gross of $450M. If they really were able to keep the budget to $180M, Disney has a fair chance to not lose money on this movie.
I think Eternals would have worked better as a Disney+ miniseries. That is just too many characters and too much plot to squeeze into a 2 hour movie. A lot of it doesn’t make much sense even leaving aside its questionable place in the larger MCU. Also feel like the MCU is getting a little overstuffed with superheroes at this point. Gonna get even worse when they introduce all the X-Men. It is fine for comics and dedicated comic readers but just way too confusing for the average theater going audience.
The beauty of Eternals is, they all got slurped up into space, and technically never have to come back. It injected the Eternals version of the secret history of Earth, and then swept everything up again, leaving behind only Tiamut to contend with. I predict some future show or movie will dissolve Tiamut, and only leave the adamantium they sucked out of him.
I'm really not sure why they decided to do Eternals. It's never been a popular comic. If I remember correctly, none of their series have gone past 12 or 13 issues. Yes, it fully integrated the Celestials into the MCU, but anyone could have done that. Just a really weird choice all around. Even in the comics, they don't really fit in with anything else. I'm not sure why I this was ever a thing, besides the rose-tinted-glasses view that everything Jack Kirby did was gold.
