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  1. jack

    jack Slave To The Rhythm

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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    The tech bros really, really, REALLY wanna kill art.
    What's up with that?
    :chris:
     
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  3. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    That guy art stole all their bored apes?
     
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Art Bell is already dead. Im not saying it’s aliens, but it’s aliens.
     
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    Show us the doll where the Russian immigrant touched you.
     
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    @jack is new to the internet, WF and trolling so cut him some slack. He grew up in your time out booth with all the crazy you banned from this place, and none of you helped him to see the universe outside. He legit thinks TK is totally hip and with it.

    You can't do that to a kid and then start pointing out he did not invent very obvious things that have been around forever.
     
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    They don't understand it, and they can't control it. You remember that meme that goes something along the lines of "SF novel: Whatever you do, don't create the Torture Matrix! Tech Bro: I'm gonna create the Torture Matrix!"? It ain't wrong.

    For whatever reason, they're incapable of grasping the deeper meaning of art, even when it's not all that subtle or deep. I used to listen to a cord cutter's podcast where one of the hosts was a tech bro. I gave up listening to it after the dumb shit the tech bro said about a couple of episodes they had recently watched. One was the nuCosmos episode about how badly leaded gasoline fucked everything up. The tech bro was, "I didn't get why they kept saying, 'He was trying to do this, but these other people wanted to stop him! He managed to still do his research, but when he tried to more, these other people wanted to stop him! Then he found a way around that, and so on, until he was able to prove that leaded gas was bad.' Why have all of that in there? He got to do his research and prove his point! Why not just say that?"

    The other one was the "Roaches" episode of Black Mirror and when the other host talked about how at the end of the episode you find out that instead of the soldier being rewarded with a nice home and beautiful wife, he got a falling-down house and no wife, the tech bro was all, "What? No! They gave him a nice house!" I was like, dude, if you think that's what happened, you clearly didn't grasp the point of the episode. And that's when I gave up listening to that podcast.

    They haven't the foggiest notion of what any of this shit might mean, or might even be trying to convey. So, when they announce, "I'm going to create the Torture Matrix!" they don't understand why people start screaming, "What are you, fucking nuts?" at them. It's like Dayton thinking that the best parts of TWoK are the space battles, while rational people recognize that as awesome as they are, what makes that movie great is how it gives us a greater depth to many of the main characters.

    So, the tech bros want to kill the arts because they don't understand them but recognize that they could be used as a unifying force against them.
     
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    The tech bros are like old radio and TV producers who didn't know how to art, but they knew how to market.
     
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    It also pops in my head how Jerry Seigel (co-creator of Superman) tried to sue DC for a bigger slice of the pie of the thing he created, and DC curb stomped him in court with expensive lawyers, and delaying tactics, and left him literally living on skid row.
    Thankfully, the baby-boom generation of writers wrestled DC into giving him a lifetime pension, and a byline on anything Superman forever.
     
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    What disturbs me the most I'd, over on TrekBBS, I've been engaged in a pages-long thread with people arguing with me that this is a GOOD thing. I'm like, how the hell can you see it as good? And they response is always "Well, it's coming anyway, so get used to it. :bergman:"

    It's fucking dystopian that we create "AI" (though that's not really what it is) and the first thing people want to do with it is farm out our art, the one thing that makes us human.
     
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    Somewhere, a killer cyborg that looks like Summer Glau is dancing.

    And most guys want to fuck it.

    AI has some uses. Looking through incredibly large datasets is one. Though I'm trying to train a model on the TreeSat database (satellite images of 60x60m grids of forest) to identify the flora. At lower levels (cleared, needleleaf, broadleaf) it does OK. At species level, accuracy is about 30-40%. We need higher-res images for that.
     
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    Exactly! I made this same argument in a different thread. Or similar, anyway.
     
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