Mueller Investigation

To which Nazi are you referring? Or is this more bullshit?

The people who vote for Trump because they are admitted Nazis. A small group, and the ones that Hillary called 'deplorables'. The same people who openly march under a Swatika flag, and that Donald called 'very good people'.

No doubt. But unless they based their opinion on a DNA analysis, it's completely immaterial for your claim about genetics, which is what makes that claim so silly.

See, you KNOW that's not who he was talking about, don't you? You're either being disingenuous or lying and I really hope it's the former. The audio is there for all to hear. I know you hate the guy but cmon man, get with it.

The audio and video of all three occasions is indeed available, and if the first one allowed some doubt that he was not talking about Nazis but about white supremacists insisting on celebrating slavery and willing to march under a Swastika to do so, the third removed any such doubt. And the Nazis know it. The Klan knows it. Erdoğan knows it and Putin and Kim. Only Fox News victims don't.

I agree. By the same token, do you agree that Hillary Clinton wasn't talking about Trump supporters in general when she used the word "Deplorables"?

I just watched her say it to open myself up to your viewpoint. She said "you can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Homophobic, xenophobic, racist, etc. And unfortunately he's lifting them up". How can you believe she's not calling at least half of his supporters deplorables? I really am open to hearing your viewpoint on this.

So, in your mind you think anyone who disagrees with removing historical statues agrees with what they represent? That they're white supremacists based on this? Really?

I'm also trying to understand why Trump would support Nazi's, and perhaps be a secret Nazi himself, yet his daughter is Jewish and grandchildren are being raised in the Jewish faith? Is Trump this evil?

And by the way, your claim that it was a "small group" that Hillary called deplorables is blown out of the water right here:



She called "half of Trump's voters" deplorables. So why are you lying about this?

Because she corrected herself directly afterwards, and because it was the whole point of what she was saying. She was asked whether she thinks she can connect to his base with her political platform. Her answer was that while some minority among his voters have such radical views that she cannot hope to connect to them, she can hope to do so with most. If her point had been to say that 50% of his base was unreachable for her, that would not have made any sense at all. She misused the word 'half', as people often do, to mean 'one of two groups', not 'a group of equal size'.

EDIT: And even in the short clip you just posted, she specifically names the size as a few thousand.

Easy test: Do they support a drive to put up a statue of Adolf Hitler, for historical purposes? If no, then they understand that statues are monuments of honour, not merely vehicles for remembering history.

But it's immaterial in the case we're discussing, because these white supremacists were marching under a fucking Swastika flag. Anyone there who didn't know it was going to be there apparently had no problem with that and decided to march on, rather than, you know, tell the guys with the Nazi symbol to fuck off or at the very least make an effort not to stand directly next to them.

Because they support him, and that's all that matters to him, just as is the case with his stance towards Putin, Kim, Erdogan, and all the other dictators that he is exchanging love letters with -- his word, not mine. Have you ever exchanged a love letter with Pol Pot? Is that something that could happen to you by accident? Have you dedicated several pages and many public appearances to extol his virtues as a person and as a strong leader? Or does something about the mere idea that you could do that strike you as strange? It does me.

Half of Trump supporters still doesn't equal all Trump supporters or even most Trump supporters. Besides, she later admitted that she shouldn't have said, "half".

She may have walked back her comments but she did, in fact, make them. Usually the first thing that people say is their true feeling.

Again, even if she meant it, half <> all. Trump wasn't talking about the Nazis thugs at Charlottesville. Just as Hillary wasn't talking about all Trump supporters.

Ah, mindreading. She explicitly told you she didn't mean it the way you interpret it, but you know better! Everything else in your clip contradicts that interpretation. Don't all of the words she used before and after "half" connect to her true feeling?

No... you've been proven to have lied about what she said. Game over.

It's very clear what I said in this thread, including her use of the word 'half', and it fits your clip perfectly. If you want to go on record as saying 11,000 is the size of half of Trump's base, then you can at least get out of this as an idiot rather than a troll.

I'm sure she should be insulted at the comparison to a Bud Light, but if the flower puts out the pollen the bee can hardly found accountable, until the honey is weak as shit. And that's still down to the flower pretending to be Bonnie Tyler when it's barely Cher.

You've been "hoaxed" bud. You should watch the documentary of the same name ("Hoaxed").

I'm sure you honestly believe what you said - it's a testament that propaganda and indoctrination works. Some is productive (like e.g. the pledge of allegiance), some (like fake news) is destructive and contrary to the well being of the country.

At best you can find actual (real) evidence of populist demagoguery (they took our yobs). [Aside from all the crude boorishness I mean.]

No doubts that Trump's a liar.

But e.g. he never said Mexicans are rapists, never called for a muslim database, never said nazis are "fine people", and never mocked the disabled. Those are all lies.

You want to find overlap between Trump's populist rhetoric and past populist rhetoric by people who ended up as dictators, I'm prepared to agree - but I won't go so far as call Sen Warren the reincarnation of Stalin, nor Bernie the epitome of Mao reborn. Yet they both spread the same populist rhetoric adopted by tyrants that destroyed millions of live and killed tens of millions more.

There's a vast stretch of land between populist nationalist and Hitler. At worst he's been nativist. We could argue whether he's done this for his own aggrandizement or because he believes it is for the benefit of the country (though imo his massive ego is our best assurance that the country will benefit because he wants to look good).

and yet....

Mueller's whole team should face a long stretch in jail for putting the whole country through this hoax when -as we now know- they knew the entire time that the Trump-Russia-Collusion narrative was entirely based on false oppo research paid for by Trump's opponent.

And Schiff should face some consequences for his irresponsible behavior and blatant lies about significant topics that are critical the nation's well being (we're not talking about whether a stack of Big Macs actually stretched a mile high).

Finally finished reading the Exec Summary of the Horrowitz report and it's worse even than e.g. the Pentagon Papers (easily overshadows the minor crimes of Watergate even including Dean and Nixon's roles in the coverup). Or the WMD lies that sold us into a war.

Hello, earth calling, come back to us. We cannot travel to your imaginationland.

How is it that Mueller missed that the FISA warrants were lies?

Irrelevant because most people aren't going to know the difference. She said it and it was caught on mike.

Yes, she tried to walk it back after it blew up in her face. She made the same mistake Romney did in 2012 with his 47 percent comment, which democrats also made a point of making a big issue about(don't remember any of you defending him on that by the way).

She's been in politics for over 30 years, she should have known better. This was just one of many blunders she made in that campaign,though I'm not sure what relevance it has to anything happening right now.

I personally support putting up a statue of the guy that killed Hitler. Maybe even name a holiday after them, whoever they were.

So you want to put up a statue of...Hitler?