Mueller Investigation

FNC totally ran a big shiny "Nuclear payoff!" headline and discussed the Clinton implications.

the thing is, the former potentially leads to the latter. If it doesn't, no harm done. If it does then it's just as important to know the extent of.

As for "clearly partisan"



There's exactly NOTHING which suggest's Mueller's investigation originated in or is tainted by partisanship. On the contrary, the claim that it is in itself has a far more partisan justification.

It is pretty entertaining to watch the right try to make Mueller -- a lifelong Republican who was named FBI director by George W. Bush and got his first federal appointment from Ronald Reagan -- into a firebreathing liberal partisan.

As you can see though the usual hyper partisan bubble dwellers truly are dumb enough to believe it.

Mueller's just a tool.

What's "clearly partisan" was appointment of a special prosecutor/creation of a criminal investigation into claims of collusion between Trump or peeps with Russia that, a year later, we're learning probably had no basis in fact. Which at the beginning even a schmoe like me -someone with no special knowledge or information- specifically doubted had any genuine merits.

I'd love to end up wrong on this, the behavior claimed by left if actually true would be very offensive.

You know, "partisan", just like when Ken Starr was sicced on Bill for cigars in vaginas and slurping up blowjobs in whitehouse based on "whitewater".

Russia played us - reminded me of spy vs spy (russia nuKGB in black, FBI in white)

...by a Republican Deputy Attorney General who in turn was appointed by Trump. Clearly, an anti-Trump conspiracy.

It's plain as day...dontcha see? dontcha SEEE?

Propelled forward by political enemies, or a genuine desire to seek truth in a criminal matter? Forgive me if I can see it from a pov contrary to the lockstep mass of Trump haters seemingly brainwashed by pop media.

[a sad state when a crackpot like Trump is accurate about the complete garbage being presented as "news" - this past week instead of old song russia russia russia, has been "mentally unfit" and "shitholes." It's laughable how obvious pop media garbage and their anti trump drums play and the ensuing impact on the narrative of 'reality.']

Well, Mueller's already turned up more indictments and guilty pleas than all the crooked hillary investigations which does raise some questions.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/fbi-russia-trump-campaign-nra-784445?amp=1

Like I said before, it is highly likely the collusion with Russia and criminality was systematic tgrough the entire GOP establishment and that they all knowingly and willingly engaged in laundering dirty Russian money. In this case money went from Russia to the hyper partisan and GOP controlled NRA to be funneled to the Trump campaign. After they have been found guilty people need to be hanged for this treason and the enablers of this treason, the people who ran cover for it, who obstructed tge investigation, and who invented lies spewed in the Republican propaganda bubble also need to face some form of legal consequences.

I do. The conspiracy theorists' credo used to be, "Don't you see -- THAT's what they WANT you to think! Resist them!" Now it's become, "Don't you see -- they WANT you to THINK! Resist!"

The Republicans are desperately trying to delegitimize the investigation because they have to do so. There are already guilty pleas and the evidence is there that Trump laundered millions in illegal Russian money into his campaign, that he knowingly and willingly obstructed justice, and the rot and criminality goes all throughout the Republican Party's organization both its official organization and its 3rd party support apparatus.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-inauguration-money-still-missing-783934

I will just leave that little bit of Trump corruption here. Where did the money go? Anyone want to bet Trump pocketed most of it just like he always does?

There's nothing in the article to indicate Trump touched any of the inauguration money or controlled its disbursement. Still, it's bad for business.

The idea of spending $107 million or even half that amount as was spent for Obama and Bush is nauseating no matter who is being inaugurated but it's not public money, so who cares? I'd say whatever his supporters spent, they got what they deserved in terms of celebrations and presidents.

They've realized that firing Mueller could lead to legitimate protests, but that dismissing his findings as "fake news" won't rock the boat at all.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.esquire.com/news-politics/amp15384608/fbi-nra-russia-money-trump/

More details about the NRA laundering illegal Russian money for Trump and how several Republicans in Congress helped facilitate the corruption.

Like I said, the taint of this goes deep and it was not just Trump but the whole corrupt Republican shit show. This corruption will not stop until all cash donations are outlawed.

While I'm generally in favour of "free speech," it's one of those concepts that can be used to justify all manner of fuckery and destructive actions. You don't like a handful of billionaires basically buying election results and owning candidates? Too bad, free speech. You don't want Nazis marching around in public, threatening minorities, starting fights, and engaging in vehicular homicide? Too bad, free speech. You don't want some alt-right blowhard with a book to sell coming to your campus and whipping up hatred against the minority students? Too bad, free speech.

But as we've already agreed, an investigation into interference in our election on behalf of a foreign power would be entirely wanted whether or not there is co-ordination or collusion found. The process is completely transparent.
1. A reasonable possibility of a corrupt election demands investigation;
2. Investigation by someone of the highest reputation is necessary, given the circumstances;
3. In the course of investigating the integrity of the election, there was reasonable circumstantial evidence (as confirmed by the Sessions recusal) that a potential connection to one campaign should be investigated in order to do due diligence;
4. if not co-ordination is found, a dispassionate investigator will conclude so and clear the sitting president which is to his political gain in a multitude of ways;
5. if in fact such behavior is found (however remote you might think the possibility) we can agree that such should be exposed;

Thus, logically, appointing a special counsel is not only not a partisan exercise (no Democrat partisan had any significant role in making it happen) but an exercise which objective logic DEMANDED. Both for the interest of the country and the interest of the accused.

That itself is a wildly partisan conclusion. Not supported by the available information at all.

A schmo like you with an emotional partisan investment in it not being true. As witness by your continued denial.

Wait.

A vastly lower threshold in that case. If we held Trump to the standards of the alleged Whitewater deal, Trump would have been impeached within a week. His entire real estate career is basically that sort of shady shit raised to an art form.

Publicly.
Funded.
Campaigns.

Which can't happen because to many politicians owe their jobs to the billionaires who bought them.

The Deplorables seem to be ready to mount their full court Trump defense. They are blathering all over Twitter about some memo which they call "worse than Watergate" and which will most likely not be worse than getting their Starbucks order wrong.
I guess the Billionaires decided to bail Donnie out with a bigger distraction than his crazy tweets.

This tweet by Republican Steve King seems to indicate the opposite of what you're saying.



Maybe it's sarcasm, but that reads to me like he's now disillusioned by Trump (which would be surprising).

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...cretly-taped-white-house-conversations-report

And we might have secret recordings from inside the White House. My, my... It is just like Watergate witg secret tapes.

Does anyone have a link with factual information about this supposed meno summerizing what it is about?

Given the GOP's track record I expect it to be nothing of consquence. Just more in their attempts to distract, derail, and obstruct.

Okay, follow this thread. It seems to indicate a whole lotta incriminating things. Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong. Either way, it raises some interesting questions.

What the report actually says and if it's as bad as it really said to be is anyone's guess.

But the Republicans as a whole seem intent on publishing it while the Democrats seem intent on not letting it be published. Given that the Democrats leak everything they think benefits them and they don't want this particular memo out in the public I'd say they think it makes them look real bad.

Release it.

I agree. Release it.

I agree. Release the piss tape.

Something for the crack smokers.

No, King is suggesting that "the memo" proves the existence of a deep state conspiracy against Trump.