My Thoughts on All The Drama

Discussion in 'Shelter Releases' started by Lanzman, Jun 25, 2007.

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  1. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Yeah, I could'a posted in an existing thread, but since I'm an attention whore anyway, I get my own thread. :nyer:

    Wordforge has taken some hits these last few weeks. Some of our members have been banned (righteously, for the most part), some have stomped off in a huff, some are laying low, and a couple are continuing to poke things with a sharp stick in the hopes of more drama.

    I'll not recap . . . we all know what happened. Let's look forward.

    Shelter thread releases: some positive steps have already been taken, but I think we need to adopt the release-when-resolved strategy to foster a greater degree of transparency. If a Shelter thread goes, say, 10 days without a new post, we can assume it's run its course and can be released.

    Observers. A good idea that seems to have gone a little stale. I think we should rotate some new ones in. Phantom of the Net, Caboose, Summerteeth or TKO might be good choices. I'm sure y'all could think of more.

    Related to that, I think those former staffers who are staff no longer should lose their Shelter access. Except for Cass/Aurora, who as founder should get special consideration IMHO. This would help break up the "eliteforge" thing, or at least make it a bit more difficult to take seriously.

    Staff: we need a new Admin. Tamar is off playing Wrathful Goddess for at least a little while, so someone needs to step into that spot and be Elwood's deputy dog. I don't want the job, as I don't feel I can give it the time and attention it needs. Lurker might be a good choice. And similar to the Observers, we need to rotate some new staff in, I think. Mrs A I assume still wants off, we've lost a couple others recently, and at any rate a bit of shake-up can be healthy. For that matter, if you want to de-mod me I have no objection, tho please note I am not asking to be taken off.

    Problems: I'm gonna be blunt here, so excuse me if I bruise some feelings. Listkeeper/Bear and Nick are simply too heavy-handed to be dealing with the members in any sort of mod/policy capacity. They instigate ill will without even seeming to realize it. Bear is of course off the staff except as chatop, and Nick should limit himself to technical issues and refrain from making admin/policy statements in public. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

    In short, my view is that he who mods least mods best. We have a simple ruleset here, so we should also have a light touch to go with it. Don't be afraid to smack the 'tards should the situation call for it, but make sure that the situation really does call for it.

    Finally, I think the structure for the staff should be Elwood, one Admin as deputy, about four or five supermods to roam the whole board, and two tech admins. That oughtta be enough to cover everything.

    The floor is yours, folks.
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  2. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    That's great, but things are already calming down.
    For the most part, those determined to act destructively against WF are over at TK...Hopefully to stay.
  3. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    I don't mind losing A51 access, especially if I'm not going to mod.
  4. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Yes, such destructive posters as Summerteeth are participating in the threads over there.
  5. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Summerteeth has done more than her share to create drama here.
    Just because it isn't public, doesn't mean it isn't there.
  6. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    If you want to rotate me out, then that would be fine with me. Like Bulldog, I don't feel like I'm contributing anything that I couldn't contribute via pm if any of the staff wanted to know what I thought. :shrug:
  7. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    If creating drama is a reason to be out of here, even if it
    1s behind closed doors, close the fucking board because no one is good enough to be here.

    Including me. Including Elwood and most definitely including you.

    Get it through you're head....we are as responsible for this mess as they are. And until it can be admitted, embraced and someone gives a damn enough to do what it takes to get the community in a better place, together, then we will end up here over and over and over again.
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  8. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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  9. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Lost for words? ;)
  10. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Yes. Her post made my cat fart.

    :borg:
  11. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

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  12. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    I ain't gotta deal with it anymore. I'm sticking with chat admin...where there is no drama, only comedy.
  13. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Cat fart huh?

    You can't see it. All you care about is a position of "power" isn't it.

    Well, fuck you. Would you care to show me how brudder was some big cause of trouble? And Summerteeth may have run her personal life like some kind of Soap Opera but exactly how has she damaged the board any?

    Where we have you who can say and do whatever the hell you want, making shit worse all over the place, undermining Administrators, lying to people for your ego's sake and you're still here. And you think what I have to say is worth a cat's fart?

    I hope you're fucking happy. You are one of the reasons this place has gone to a major source of comfort and happiness in my life to a place I am beginning to wonder why I return to every day.

    Thanks a bunch, fucker. Enjoy that cat fart too, you misrable prick. Don't bother PMing me,it won't make a difference. And don't worry, I won't be sullying up chat with my presence either. You can have your little kingdom where kicking, killing and banning people makes your life complete. :mad:
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  14. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I've been thinking about that, but I'm going to choose very, very carefully because the next Admin will be the Heir Apparent. My resignation is on the table, I just haven't dated it yet.

    Edit: Instead of making it a closed loop discussion (me trying to pick someone), why don't all of you that are interested PM or, preferably, e-mail me and we'll talk it out.
  15. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    ^I submit Lanzman's name for consideration.

    Lanzman: O2C... I do not seek the leadership.

    O2C: Khaless said, "Great men do not seek power. They have it thrust upon them." Hail Lanzman, Leader of the Forge.

    All: Lanz-man! Lanz-man! Lanz-man! Lanz-man! Lanz-man! Lanz-man!
  16. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    I submit thelurker's name!
  17. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Why don't we just wait and see who sends me a PM or, preferably, an e-mail?
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    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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  19. BearTM

    BearTM Bustin' a move! Deceased Member

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    Fuck you, bitch. I've never denied having contributed to the drama. Never did so with any intent other than to derail the shitbirds, though. So go to hell.
  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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  21. Mrs. Albert

    Mrs. Albert demented estrogen monster

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    This place is too crazy for me. :lol:
  22. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    Well, they wanted entertaining...
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  23. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Yeah right.

    You live for that shit. You are most of the reason I had to fucking take a walk. You don't belong on the staff and the insistance on the lies to protect your fucking ego. It's dispicable. And for what? So you can feel all manly?

    Control freak.

    And maybe I don't belong here either, but at least I really removed myself as one less thing for people to bitch about.

    Don't worry, If I go to hell, I'll leave a light on for ya, fucker.
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  24. Linda R.

    Linda R. Fresh Meat

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    There won't be a PM from me. I love this place, and I'm happy to do what I can to help, but anything involving any tech stuff is not my strong suit. :soma:

    Hell, it took me a good few minutes to merge two threads yesterday, because I had to make sure I was't mucking it up!
  25. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    It can be really confusing...and as bad as the SM panel is...the Admin panel is worse. I was just starting to get a semi-hang of it. Even so, sometimes it felt like looking at Greek. :dizzy:
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