No 150th Anniversary of Antietam thread? You're slipping Muad

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  1. ehrie

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    I expect more from you. :bailey: It was Lee's finest 24 hours in the field after all. War should have ended that day 150 years ago today.
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    Ancalagon, Sep 17, 2012
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    But it was also the key to how to beat Lee, a lesson Meade and Grant would apply quite successfully. The confederacy began to die that day, so he doesn't like to talk about it.
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    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Not slipping at all. Had a written piece published on it today, as a matter of fact.
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  5. ehrie

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    Hrm, in what respect? I'm not seeing much relation to how it all eventually ended. Lee never really got caught like that again until the writing was already on the wall. Lee should never have made it out of Maryland. Part of it was because the guy in my avatar was an imbecile, but Lee gets a lot of credit for realizing just how fucked he was a pushing all his chips to the middle of the table that day.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Lee demonstrated at Antietem that he was willing to destroy his army in an effort to win the big battle. The way to beat him was ultimately to engineer a series of big battles in which he wastefully threw his troops at the Union lines. Mead won at Gettysburg by daring Lee to come at him, and Grant finished him off by continuously stretching the battlelines against which Lee would throw his men. Antietem demonstrated Lee's fatal flaw, which that he was all too willing to assault a superior force on better ground.

    Tsun-Tsu would not approve. :bailey:
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    I think Muad pooped his pants and is now hiding under his bed over the power of the Federal government.
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  8. ehrie

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    I can respect that opinion. I would argue though that the Union really didn't learn that lesson until Gettysburg. Unlike there, Lee was fucked at Antietam and he knew it. He had his back to a river he could not safely cross that day and infront of him stood an army that was quite a fair share larger than his. Only really one ballsy play there and he made it. You are correct about Gettysburg. Meade got he high ground, waved his dick at Lee and told him to come get him. Lee obliged.
    ehrie, Sep 18, 2012
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