Obama on the Issues

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    As compared to whom?
  2. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Here's a good example of why Obama is a cult leader rather than a real one

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    I bet Halle Berry would lend him her sleeve just for the chance to get close...
  3. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    So if people applaud at unusual times awkwardly, that makes you a cult leader?

    What politician isn't a cult leader under this definition?
  4. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Compare/Contrast to the media reaction if W had done the same thing.
  5. brudder1967

    brudder1967 this is who we are

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    It is kind of amusing considering all the flack over the W the president stickers by our resident lefties.

    At least the O the humanity stickers will still be fashionable.

    :lol:
  6. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Name the gorgeous stars who've fawned over W...
  7. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Ah. So candidates are personally responsible for other people's thinking about them?

    Explain how that worked for John Hinckley.
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    Volpone Zombie Hunter

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    I knew the fucker was soft on illegals. :garamet: Still, Jesus does do a good job on my lawn...
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  10. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    Someone else (can't find the post now) was saying that the country is sliding off a platform. Right now, it's at, say 45 degrees. McCain wants to push that to 60, maybe 70 degrees. Clinton to 75, and Obama to about 85. Paul wants to level it, but might only be able to realistically push it to 30 degrees.

    In the strictest sense, there's change from everyone. But only one candidate's change is change in direction as well as change in speed.
  11. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    How many of them have made the fawning remarks Halle Berry did? "I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."

    Or George Clooney, "He walks into a room and you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere"

    "This is not a campaign for president of the United States, this is a movement to change the world" - Elijah Cummings, Maryland Congressman

    It's not just simple rhetoric. It's the rhetoric of the brainwashed.
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  12. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Can't do it, huh?

    Besides the subject is not how he's responsible for it but that he's banking on it. He's got nothing else but he does have charisma.
  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Ronald Reagan.
  14. Raoul the Red Shirt

    Raoul the Red Shirt Professional bullseye

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    The goalposts, they are moving.

    I don't really feel like finding various quotes from people saying that Bush is on a mission from God. (Of course, Obama has dipped his toes in those waters too).

    But they're certainly out there.

    Or does it only count if the people are sufficiently famous?
  15. brudder1967

    brudder1967 this is who we are

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    Does this mean we can have an Obamasheep icon, or we could be really politically incorrect and have an Obamaswine icon.

    ;)
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  16. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Yet another bad example. Reagan had been governor of the largest state in the union. He also had executive level experience. In fact, he had charisma (and that made his first career successful) AND experience which served him well in politics. Both made him qualified and experienced for the job. Whether or not you liked his policies, you've got to admit he was more qualified than Obama is now.
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  17. Starchaser

    Starchaser Fallen Angel

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    Niether.
    I'd rather succede or fail on my own without help from any polititian from DC. :enty:
  18. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Not at all.
    I've shown you support for my statement. You have twice now refused to offer your support for your positions. You could probably find them but I'm sure it'd be a tougher search, especially if you limited yourself to the mainstream sources.

    The difference really is that while there might be fawners for Bush, there was ALSO his record by which to judge him.

    Obama's record is significantly thinner and the fawners are significantly more numerous and public.
  19. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I just like watching you guys get all tingly when you see his name.
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    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Must be. You certainly didn't have anything of substance to back up your mention of him.

    Blasphemer!!
  21. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Things sure turned out well for her! :unsure:
  22. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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    Another idiot who doesn't understand Paul and his supporters. And I thought you, at least, had more smarts than Bear and his ilk. I guess I was wrong. That certainly was NOT the kind of change Paul was advocating. Only a misguided and ignorant fool would ever have thought so.
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  23. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Everything I know about Ron Paul I learned on Wordforge. That you've failed to adequately convey his message other than to say "he's the other white meat" is not my responsibility.
  24. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

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    And yet just a few days ago you were chastising Obama critics for not being aware of his positions on the issues. You mentioned that looking up his positions on his website was their responsibility.
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  25. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    That assumes I would have been interested in voting for Paul. I am not now, nor have I ever been, even before the sour grapes and paranoia set it.
  26. evenflow

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    So you've basically admitted that you'd rather wallow in your assumptions and prejudices regarding Paul and his supporters than look up his positions.
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  27. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    "Wallowing" implies an emotional investment. Trust me when I tell you I've never invested a moment's emotion in the political future of Ron Paul.
  28. KIRK1ADM

    KIRK1ADM Bored Being

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    I dislike many of Ron Paul's positions. But, I would much rather see him in the White House than any of the other Democratic or Republican front runners.
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  29. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    And yet, you believe Obama critics should look up his positions before criticizing him and are responsible to look those positions up themselves...yet when you are ignorant of a candidate, it is not your responsibility to know their positions and in fact you blame their supporters for not adequately presenting them???

    You are somehow exempt from your own standards because you were never interested in voting for anyone else? Yet, you are arrogant enough to make remarks and comments about a politician and his supporters you haven't taken the time to check out?

    How anyone can take you seriously at all anymore defies imagination. :jayzus:

    *cue passive-aggressive tripe*
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  30. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Okay.