Paladin

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  1. Jenee

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    Oh, I do. I am well aware I may be wrong. The difference is, if I’m wrong, someone gets something they don’t deserve. If you’re wrong, people starve.
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  2. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    spoken like someone who' never been in that position
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  3. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    so what's one of the most stolen things in America?

    turns out it's wages

    but hey... fuck those people doing low skilled work. they should be grateful they get paid anything. amirite???
    so what if the boss skims the tips (let alone some malfeasance when writing the cheques)
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  4. Jenee

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    I wonder what happened ...:thinking:

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  5. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I dunno... but it seems notable that US wages seem to increase mostly during D administrations, then flatline before declining under Rs other than Ike's era.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    God, when I went in in 2010, they'd just switched over to the infamous blue camos about six months earlier and had started the plans to phase that out when I left five years later. It was gone by the time I went to my brother's CPO pinning ceremony two years later. :jayzus:

    I'm glad women are no longer required to have that $40 cover that would get bent and dinged and we can have a $7 Dixie cup. Somehow, I'm an extreme outlier on this opinion. :shrug:
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Bruh, you make a whole thing out of paying for plastic bags :lol:

    If you believe that swill, I'm the Queen of goddamn England :rotfl:
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  8. Damar

    Damar Liberal Elitist

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    We’ve become a society where everyone is a free agent. Don’t make plans to have union representation back you up. With COVID and the changing work from home environment companies are having a hard time adjusting to a labor model with no employee loyalty. The short term solution seems to be to try to squeeze every last ounce of production out of the existing employees and don’t backfill the open positions.
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    This is why capitalism fails.
  10. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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  11. steve2^4

    steve2^4 Aged Meat

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    does two months as a grill cook at Hardee's count?
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  12. MikeH92467

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    It doesn't really matter if it's a $28 porkchop or a $2 hamburger, I think the point stands.
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  13. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I make a whole thing out of pointless regulation. I don't mind paying for the plastic bags; it was the removal of them from the self checkout line that irked me. I'd much rather cough up an extra 30 or 40 cents per load of groceries than bring my own bags to the store. In any event, everywhere I shop has them, you just have to key in how many you used. Problem solved.
    You're confusing having emotions with making decisions emotionally. I certainly have the former, I try never to do the latter (admittedly, I don't always succeed and usually wind up regretting it).
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  14. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    so, that's about 3000 cases of about 12 cartons each.

    12 per layer and 5 high per skid is about 500 skids of 60

    about 50 skids per 53' trailer, stacked

    two of 'em should finish that in two 12 hr days





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  15. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I never had a job dealing direct with the public (though have had to deal with customers, which can be a whole lot of not fun).

    People who work as wait staff or kitchen staff work hard and sometimes have to deal with absolutely atrocious behavior from people. I think someone who abuses an employee because the employee usually has to stand for it is a pretty bad person.

    Someone once said "A person who is nice to you but not to the waiter is not a nice person." Totally agree.
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  16. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    They wanted help to do the job and couldn't get it at $14/hour. That is pretty astounding. :shrug:
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    Brain flakes?
  18. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I suppose that depends on how much one knows about working a loading dock?

    $14/hr for a two day gig ain't shit if you want it done in a that amount of time by someone else.
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  19. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    yet they frequently make minimum or even less with a definite wage ceiling, yet have to rely on the largesse of "pleased" customers... provided the owners/managers aren't also skimming from the tip pool.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    it's how one becomes management!
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  21. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    It says "part time" and, presumably, whomever they hired would be working in addition to the team of two.
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    The word "cash" speaks volumes.

    They wanted day labor and didn't know how to go about it.

    Still when I hire a guy to dig a hole I pay at least $25. And that was before covid.
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  23. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It’s cereal for zombies.
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  24. matthunter

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    This is my shocked face.

    Extra points because you said you did have to deal with customers, so you don't think YOUR clientele were "the public".

    Get you, you classy motherfucker.

    You only served the upper classes.

    Woop de doo.

    And their jizz tasted SO sweet on your lips, huh?
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  25. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    How would they be working in addition to the other two? the other two are likely not even going to be there as they don't sound like they're normally S/Rs
    either way, more than two operators in a single trailer is as impractical as it is dangerous... (think about like it's starcraft 2 and how you can only have three drones on a refinery)

    okay, now presuming they're stacked two high, that's ten trailers... 20 if they arent.

    that means being trained to operate at least a high lift walkie, if not a full on counterbalance lift truck (forklift).

    that requires a certified individual for insurance purposes alone. (although seeing a pair of forks sticking out the side of an $80K trailer is always hilarious).

    around here the average start wage for a qualified fulltime operator is about $22+bennies

    you need a hired gun for a few nights? start there in U$ and maybe you'll get somebody over 21 and sober. Even better just to hire someone permanent ...

    have you ever even had a work related callous? because for all the talk, you place no value on actual hard work and the people who do it.
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  26. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I think one of the things being missed here is that it isn't just what the "market value" of the job is, but also what it's worth not to have to do it (poorly, it seems) yourself.
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  27. Jenee

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    Take the graph I posted. Person gets a job in 1980 and whatever job it is, it’s a good job and can be reasonably comfortable buying a house and car and getting married and having kids. But, over the course of 40 years, that same job still pays the same or similar, but the cost of living has increased exponentially. Now, who’s fault is it that the person now need food stamps and social safety nets to survive?
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  28. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    seems relevant, and being a YT video, maybe FF will pay more attention?

  29. MikeH92467

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    What it really means is that businesses have been getting a massive subsidy. Of course the ones benefitting the most from that subsidy are screaming the loudest about how government shouldn't be subsidizing poor people.
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  30. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    That's figured in. If the market price is too high, you do it yourself (or don't do it).

    Do you hire a painting contractor to paint your kitchen? Probably not since you can do it yourself cost effectively and without too much difficulty. Do you hire a mechanic to work on your car? Maybe not if you know how, maybe so if it's something difficult or requires special tools. Do you hire a contractor to pour your concrete driveway? Probably, that's not a do-it-yourself job for most people.