Pizza for Everyone! Cain is Buying!

My heart bleeds for Rick Perry- NOT!

Bachmann lays a too.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/24/herman-cain-wins-cpac-florida-straw-poll/

I watched the debate on YouTube this afternoon. I would just like to comment:


Santorum??? 4th place??? You people think MY views are scary. Can we just excommunicate Florida? That motherfucker should have been LAST. Not only did he blabber on about essentially the same stuff at every question, but he also INSULTED a member of the United States Armed Forces. And you Floridians give this guy 4th place? Those ~2500 straw poll people should be ashamed of themselves. He should have been last.

and people wonder how Rick Scott got elected governor...

So liberal is non American?
Guess no one is really scared of Commies any more...

Well, I'd have voted for Cain over Perry too, and I missed the debate.

Perry is sinking fast. Bachman is on fire and not on fire in the good way either. Romney is to stiff and liberal. Cain can't survive a general election but it would be one hell of a general election to see Cain go after Obama.

The rest of the field haven't figured out yet that they have no chance. And yes that includes Ron Paul.

Now Chris Christie is thinking of jumping in.

And I know Sarah Palin is just waiting to jump in.

I'd bet even Rubio is having second thoughts but if he's smart he'll hold off.

like that conviction that campaigned for Arlen-fucking-Spector over Pat Tomey? I think the vast majority of Republicans will take a pass on THAT "conviction"

that works out to:

Herman Cain, 37.1% = 986
Rick Perry, 15.4% = 409
Mitt Romney, 14.0% = 372
Rick Santorum, 10.9% = 290
Ron Paul, 10.4% = 276
Newt Gingrich, 8.4% = 223
Jon Huntsman, 2.3% = 61
Michele Bachmann, 1.5% = 40

So, no, you can't really bitch at all of Florida. You can't even bitch at 2600+ people.

You can bitch at 290 people.


Don't panic.

I don't even know why anyone is wasting their time over Santorum. He has zero chance.

I'm not convinced that - IF Cain should actually overcome the massive odds and win the nomination - that he couldn't take out Obama. Any real shit that might trip him up would to it before he got the nomination - if he gets that far he will have been heavily vetted. It's true he has some knee-jerk opinions that will be fodder to use against him, but it's not like he'd be challenging an incumbent who's on solid ground.

nevermind.

Santorum is the closest thing to New England that the New Yawkers can vote for down here.

There's Romney, but Massholes don't count.

I don't see those bastards voting Republican anyway.....

Maybe the New Whiners are different where you live in Florida.

I just can't see him winning.

Oh it would be glorious though......

The Uncle Toms being thrown at him by the Democrats would be a blast.

Shit maybe he would win just based on the disgust people would have for the Democrats slandering him like we all know they would do.

Hannity types.

Oh that explains it.....

In South Florida we get all the Maddow types.

So has anyone else here tried Godfather's pizza?

I remember eating at one of their restaurants a long time ago.

From what I remember, it was pretty good pizza.

Yea, I have. It's alright.

I can't ever remember eating it, but I'm sure I have at some point.

I remember having it once. It was okay.

So, who do you guys think has the best chance of winning the GOP primary? I know it's still a bit early, but so many people are fighting for the spot, and they've all got their problems with either the media or the voters or both. From what I've seen, I figure one way or the other, Romney's going to come out on top.

Chris Christie or Sarah Palin or Herman Cain (if he can sustain and expand on the straw poll win)



I think we are going to be thrown a curveball.

I'm hungry now. I think I need to order a pizza from somewhere!

The real fun would be the sudden inability of Obama being able to use the race card, which is one of the few tactics he has left.

I have no real idea, but your last line is very likely correct. One thing history shows us is that we are amost always thrown a curve ball.

Thinking that Perry or Romney will get the nomination, at this point, is simply following the crowd. By March of next year, we should have a reasonable idea of who will get the nomination. Probably not much before.

Sorry but you're wrong.

The race card would be going nuclear because it would be used so much.

Don't underestimate leftists to play the race card just because the opponent is black.

They would treat Herman Cain like he was whiter then fresh snow.

How could I forget?

I mean, we saw an example right here, didn't we?

Liet supposedly knowing more about the life of a young black girl than Anna.

I am really hoping no on those.

While the other two are not going to get anywhere near the Presidential podium (Christie's got a chance of a gnat fart knocking down Mt. Everest and Palin's already squandered her chances), Cain is associated with the Tea Party, so that may either help him or hurt him depending upon his level of involvement and commitment. He also has more than a few eccentricities attributed to him. One of them is his statement that Planned Parenthood was designed to kill black babies.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...laims-planned-parenthood-founded-planned-gen/

There are a number of dark horses in the GOP race. There's Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul, and Herman Cain.

Jon Huntsman seems very mild, reasonable and much more moderate than most of the other candidates, and if he could get into the political position, could even unseat Obama. However, he's going to be "too liberal" for many on the GOP side. This means he will be completely ignored.

Ron Paul is more conservative, but is also more open to personal liberty, has reasonable views on a number of issues, and is very polite and mild mannered. He also has no interest in seeing soldiers sent overseas and killed in the name of political advancement. This means he will also be completely ignored.

The aforementioned Cain may have the best shot as the dark horse, but he's got major problems, at least from my POV. Firstly, he's very authoritarian. Also, don't doubt for two seconds the race card will be played, as he's already stated publicly that between him and Obama, he (Cain) is a "real black man". He may be a more comfortable talker, but he's contentious, and wants to enforce more government, not less. The more being against your personal freedoms. Yeah, he wants to ease up on taxes, but he's willing to tie regular people down to do it. I would hope that would be a deal breaker, but it depends on what the GOP wishes to push as it's message.

All in all, that's why I think Romney's got it. Yeah, he's milquetoast, and he's not consistent on most issues, but he's "safe". He's someone the GOP will swallow as a bitter pill. Again, just my opinion.

Actually, that spells out why you would like Romney to get it, and nothing more.

It's like your claim that Obama will certainly be re-elected. It's a common psychological phenomenon: thinking that because you want something to be true, it therefore is true.

Your colorful statement about Christie's chances illustrate this principle very much. His chances are very low right now because he has stated repeatedly that he isn't running. But it is impossible for you or anyone at this point to say what his chances of getting the nomination would be if he tried.

He is one of the very few Republicans for whom I would vote for POTUS. I don't like him as much as Paul, but I would still vote for him.

I'm not going to go around claiming that he would have a good chance of getting the nomination if he decided to jump into the race, though. There simply is not enough information to know.

Why? Are you finally giving up on Obama and planing to vote for a Republican?

Otherwise you'd want these people to be the nominee......

Most of America doesn't agree with you. Not saying he would win but he has a better then even chance then what you gave him

No she hasn't. And it shows in the leftists in charge of the Demoncrats that they are still going after her.

He's right.

Planned Parenthood exists to kill minorities. Specifically blacks.

Huntsman? The darling of the left and the media?

The people on the right have already spoken on his chances in case you missed it. He's in negative territory at this rate.

Ron Paul? Got fans that be true but can't win.

Herman Cain? Anyone's guess what happens after Florida.

So he's not a dark horse but a loser horse.

Nice implication that everyone on the right who is not a Ron Paul fan loves sending soldiers overseas to fight and die in the name of "political advancement".

Ron Paul's foreign policy is what scares most away from him.

Not even close.

Romney got rejected last time. He will get rejected again.

Romney? No, I wouldn't vote for Romney. When I say "get it", by "it" I mean the GOP nod. I don't think he'd win the Presidency.

He will be elected. Like I said earlier this year, whoever has the post I made stating Obama will be elected, to keep it. I stand by it. The GOP frontrunners have been weak, and they've been playing musical chairs, and while Romney's been back and forth, he's been near the front ever since he jumped in. He is the likely candidate to reach the top spot. Can I be wrong about Romney? Certainly. I do admit when I make mistakes. Hence my frequent use of "in my opinion" and "from my point of view" when speaking about the GOP candidate chances.

Christie's in the same boat as Paul. They're both more reasonable choices for the GOP, but they don't make enough waves and don't jump through enough hoops. If Christie jumps in now (he'll have to soon if he is), he'll have to haul ass to reach the top. He may do it, but I think, like Paul, he's going to get pushed out of the way by the other top contenders.

"Not enough information to know" is a surefire way to be ignored in this election cycle. Right now, it appears the electorate on the GOP side is looking for barn burners. They want to beat the hell out of Obama's charisma with someone who is equally charismatic and intellectual. So far, Romney's the closest. Maybe Christie is charismatic and intellectual, but if he doesn't go for it soon, he could be Jesus and get ignored by the party showrunners.