Random Star Trek discussion

"Gravity" So Voyager didn't do as much character development as DS9, but when they do, it's pretty damn good. This episode is okay, but it has pretty good character development for Tuvok.

Attributing the Furniture Designs That Appear as Star Trek Props

I knew that sometimes the prop masters grab stuff from ordinary stores and sometimes tweak them a little for SF TV shows and movies (in a lot of them, you'll see a conical case that's supposed to represent something like a Pelican case in our world, its usually white or silver, it's a children's toybox that was made to resemble the Apollo capsules) but they do also make some of the props for things like furniture as well. The chair that McCoy relaxes in at Kirk's apartment in TWoK?



It's a President Lounge Chair 265, designed by Steen Ostergaard for Cado in 1968. It's possible that the design of that chair was influenced by TOS or 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Always thought Troi should be in a uniform. But Jellico saying it makes me want to punch him in the throat.

I thought she looked hotter in the uniform than the catsuit.

Jellico came across as a dick, but he wasn't wrong about a lot of stuff. He was just the wrong guy to take command of Picard's touchy/feely crew.

In-universe they made her uniform change look like a "Jellico is a dick" thing that Troi didn't want, but Mirina Sirtis wanted the uniform, and hated the Troi suit.

I wouldn’t classify Picard’s Enterprise crew as “touchy feely”. It was a product of its time. But also… Jellico was a straight up dick. He was written to be that way. Anyone he treats their employees on such a way would have been fired. Even the Army drill seargents didn’t act like that. Not with other soldiers not under their training command.

Combat arms drill sergeants most certainly did in the 80s, though I did hear that they softened basic training beginning in the early 90s.

Not only that, but they were only allowed so much rope when dealing with female recruits. One academy student assigned to our company for his training (how to deal with enlisted) hit the back of a woman’s helmet. He was back at his academy before EOB that day.

Which does make me wonder why they felt like they needed an in-universe reason, since there was never an in-universe reason for giving Crusher a lab coat, or Picard that cool shirt-and-jacket combo, or even switching Troi between the teal dress and the mauve.

He was written that way for the same reason why they brought in Commander Shelby.

Thanks to Gene Roddenberry, the writer's bible for TNG prohibited the main characters from having any sort of conflict.

So they occasionally wrote in a random character who could do the shit that the main crew couldn't.

I get it but hey, Sirtis had been pushing this for years and if that's the way she (finally) wins that argument and gets sharper writing in the process, it's a small sacrifice IMO.

By Season 3, Roddenberry had largely been kicked off the show. Though I guess it is still an aftereffect of his "no conflict" rule, in that the writers were still working with the characters he had created, and they couldn't suddenly have Riker and Geordi start clashing out of the blue.

(Weirdly, it seems Roddenberry was OK with having Pulaski be a total dick to Data.)

The spat Riker and Picard have in Picard season 3 was specifically to take a steaming dump on that rule.

That was dumb, out of character histrionics. Riker shouting "you've just killed us all" on a bridge full of junior officers just wasn't consistent.

I bet there's been so much Rule 34 content of T'Lyn with Tendi and/or Mariner this season

Emily Coutts is in an Oil Of Olay ad!

Watch out Miles, she tried to poison you once.