Rant on politics (both parties)

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Nightbird, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. Nightbird

    Nightbird Goth, Witch, and Dreamer

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    Politics in America have become a battleground for the people. This is why I don’t care all that much for them. Whether McCain and his bumbleheaded conservatism that is just more of the same crap of, reward the rich, cripple the poor. This is a man who thinks that the Middle Class is anyone that makes less than a Million Dollars a year. Technically this can be true as it includes someone making 50 grand or less, but for the most part, his statement is just another symptom of how out of touch this man is. At one time he was smart and I respected him. Alas, he has changed, and not for the better. He used to be a maverick, but since accepting his parties endorsement, he’s had to take on the yoke of rules as well.
    And that is why he should not be elected. Despite his remarks to Obama, he is a virtual clone of George Bush. The last 8 years have been nothing but one bad mistake upon another, and I believe in my heart that if this nation is to survive and grow, we must elect someone new. And seeing as how this is a stupid two-party system that means Obama.
    Now although you think this an endorsement for Obama, it is not. He is a dreamer, and chances are most of those dreams won’t come to fruition, due to Congress. But I say it is better to dream than to throw up ones hands and say, “well, that’s just the way it’s done.”
    Democrats b elieve that simply throwing money at a problem will make it disappear. However, you have to have a mechanism to implement change before problems can be solved. Yes, Democrats throw money at people. It is sad, but Republicans are just as bad in different ways. The Conservative mentality is one that says, Don’t help people with money; that’s just more governent. So they don’t do that, but they DO interfere in our lives on every other level. They tell us what we can and can’t do in our own homes; they tell us that we shouldn’t have a minimum wage; that abortion is wrong; that Marijuana is bad for us; that the market shouldn’t be regulated, even though we’ve just seen what happens with no controls in place; they tell us that our rights granted by the Constitution are to be put in second place in order to protect us from terrorists.
    And they have no right to do so !
    They interfere in just as many ways that Democrats do. The difference – at least in my mind – is that they are just evil outright, having no pretext of hiding it. That’s what scares me. It should scare any American that has a soul. I dream of a day when the Federal Government only passes laws that affect us as a nation. What we do in our homes and with each is other is none of their concern. Some things are a matter for the State, while others – like abortion – are between a woman and God.
    I realize I’m all over the place with this rant, but it’s late and my thoughts are a bit scattered.

    Comments please? And discuss what you think Government should be like.
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  2. Clyde

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    Does that mean Democrats are better at hiding their evilness? And would that really make them the better of the two parties?

    If one has a soul then they should fear the GOP, okay but I'm starting to think your rant isn't as unbiased as the thread title would suggest.
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  3. Nightbird

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    I do fear the GOP, for the reason that they don't care about the majority of people. It seems to me that they care only for the rich.
    Don't know about the Democrats being better at hiding their evil, just that they are, at the present moment, less evil then the Conservatives current offering. If McCain would have run back in the 90's, I may have voted for him.
    It would be a good start if the Electoral College were abolished and we elected candidates by popular vote alone. The EC made sense a long time ago, when it was difficult to get to the polls. In todays world of advance voting and mail-ins, it is not needed. One man/woman, one vote. That way every vote would count. As of now, someone that wants to vote for Obama and lives in Texas, may just as well stay home.
    For the record, I deeply believe in the Second Amendment. We have a right to own guns, and as many as we want.
    Sorry about saying Both Parties in the title; it was a way to get more people to participate. At least I'm not out of line with most political ads.

    More comments and participation, please.
  4. Muad Dib

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    I fear both parties. One is just as bad as the other. The name of their game is staying in power, not serving the best interests of the American people. Therefore, I will go to the polls on Tuesday and vote for Ron Paul, who, unlike McCain and Obama, doesn't have to go to the bathroom to know what he's doing.
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  5. Clyde

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    Well the classic opposing argument is California and New York would essentially elect every president and candidates would be free to blow off the other 48 states.

    On a personal level, I'm Californian, I've seen what we do with the one state we're in charge of now, giving us control over the entire country might, well, be bad.
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  6. Nightbird

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    Now for the Democrats to get theirs:
    When we elected these bozos in 2004 and took over Congress, we thought they would stand up to the Republican excesses. They did not. The gutless little fuckers wouldn't even try to start impeachment proceedings against Bush. Yes, it would have failed, but to not even try was a violation of the voters trust. Here in Minnesota, I can't stand Norm Coleman as senator in charge of sucking dick, but voting for Al Franken makes me ill. I'd much rather vote for Dean Barkley, but the guy has no chance of winning. Barkley is reasonable and Franken is taking himself WAY too seriously.
    The biggest difference between the two parties is that Republican and Democrat are spelled differently.
    Sad.
    GOP stands for Greasy Little Pricks
    DFL stands for Dumb Fucking Losers
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    They took over the congress in 2006.
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    For the record, I am spectacular at hiding my evilness.


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  9. Nightbird

    Nightbird Goth, Witch, and Dreamer

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    Whoops. Wrote the post when I just woke up. Note to self: Tea and breakfast, then post.
  10. Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz

    Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz And Hell's comin' with me!

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    Everything makes pretty respectable sense, aside from the abortion comments.

    Abortion cannot be as cut and dry as some seem to present it to be, because it is directly involved in an argument regarding what life is.

    If one is to believe that life begins at conception, then it's trampling on the rights of a human, and I can only hope that logically it could be considered murder.

    To say that abortion is between a woman and God may be equivalent to saying that murder is between the murderer and God.

    You could say we should think of those who don't believe that they're killing a child. Those that believe they're simply making a decision regarding an entity that is feeding off of them physically and financially, and they aren't equipped to handle it.

    But for any argument you make as a reason for abortion, you can turn and make as a reason for murder, due to the fact that when one argues when life begins, they're arguing over what the majority thinks, rather than what can be proven to be the "starting point" of life.

    It's just not that simple.
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    Since, statistically speaking, McCain should be dead already, anyone voting for him wants Palin for president. If that's not a bad idea, nothing is.
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  12. Nightbird

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    I already thought of the McCain dying = President Palin thing. I still think that McCain could have chosen a better running mate than that.... thing.

    But what would YOU like to see in Government ?