Shutdown Supporters, Now That It's All Over But The Crying....

Which corporation?

And you're right in that it's really not confusing. In a non-Federalized health insurance industry, you know what there aren't? Federal exchanges.

Exhibit A for the case that people are easily confused.

Except not so much. Once the Federal government starts administering health insurance plans, it takes willful ignorance to deny that it's a Federalized system. State exchanges? Nope, those aren't Federalized. Federal exchanges? Those are what, now? Come on, gul, this is easy. I know you don't like the answer -- as someone who's defending this thing, I know you'd rather it was called anything else -- but that doesn't change the answer.

Apparently you don't understand that the system is run by 50 state regulators, which is why the President asked these non-federal agents to implement the delay in plan rules that have caused the "cancellations" in the first place.

Well, that's an interesting take on it; it's not Federalized because the Federal exchange... isn't a Federal exchange?

You are confusing the concepts of federal and national. There is a national marketplace for citizens from states that can't manage to set one up at the state level. For your statement to be accurate, there could be no state marketplaces.

And while the Obama administration deserves 100% of the blame for the website disaster, it's also worth noting that people in states that set up their own exchanges are much better off, while people in states where Republican legislators threw temper tantrums and refused to implement an exchange are the ones most affected. (Thanks, Jase Bolger! Maybe you should try listening to Rick Snyder next time; he's smarter than you are.)

Usually it's the same people that gripe about the influence of money in politics while parroting the talking points of the T.V ads that money is spent on.

You really are confused. You do know that the fed didn't want to run any exchanges, right? Every state had the option to run its own, many took them up, and it was only the retarded Republicans who said "we won't run our own; we'll make the Feds do it!" Honestly, it would be better for everyone if the states did just run their own, the way responsible states already do, but first Republicans would have to get their heads out of their collective ass. "We hate big government but demand the Feds run them for us because we don't want to have it look like we're cooperating with the law!"

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/here-s-where-people-have-signed-up-for-obamacare

And that national markeplace is administered by whom?

No; for my statement to be inaccurate, there would have to be no national marketplace administered by a Federal agency. Such as... oh, just for example... the Department of Health and Human Services.

And yet...

And they didn't have to. They chose to when they put corporate welfare for health insurers above what Americans wanted them to do. And yet...

So you go from claiming I'm "confused" -- implying that the Feds aren't running an exchange -- to admitting that the Feds are, in fact, running an exchange so that you claim blame Republicans for the failure of a law they opposed.

I think you're the one who's confused.

Honestly, what would be better for everyone would be if the arrogant, incompetent Federals kept their hands out of things they don't understand and have no business mucking about with.

To begin with, we have government interference to thank for health insurance premiums skyrocketing in the first place because of the barriers it established against interstate competition between health insurers. You know what that barrier created? Oligopolies in every single state. And yet Obamacare -- even more government interference -- was supposed to alleviate that?

Hence the 13th amendment.

Does not follow. The Federals know all about slavery and indentured servitude.

No, hence the tenth amendment.

The Civil War exposed some issues with that one, which is why we fixed it.