Since the discussion has been mentioned and some of us do not have a voice in the discussion

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Tererune, Nov 24, 2023.

  1. Tererune

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    For the people discussing the forceful removal of supposedly hateful things in the signatures of some users.

    Here is the hijacked words that are being spoken about being banned.

    From the river to the see Palestine will be free.

    It has been told to us that this is a phrase that means kill all jews. Now that would seem to be a stretch. I am sure some people in Hamas are probably saying that, but just like other statements it does not implicitly call for the death of all jews, nor is it a threat. Just like certain people regard any Koran statement or arabic language as a call for terrorism, this is not really a call for terrorism at all, especially when we take it in the context of Isreal/ palestinian discussions where no one at all has ever called for the elimination of all Isrealis, or the killing of all jews.

    I am not saying the discussion should not occur. I understand the mods, and others, discuss these things so more level headed opinions may prevail when others have an oversensitive bias towards certain issues. Currently there is an obviouis level of heightened anger at either side of this issue. There is certainly a large representation of the Isreal superior idea of it's existence. It is clear we have some rather radical and rabid zionists around here like @Dr. Krieg . There can be no doubt of this person's support for the zionist occupation of Isreal, and the open ethnic cleansing and genocide supported by the terrorist right wing conservatives of that nation.

    It would be a shame if WF let this bias create a censoring of pro-palestinian discussion through threats of banning any pro-palestinian sentiment based on the lie that any support of palestine is somehow a call to genocide Isreal and the jews despite no one ever saying that outside of the white nationalists who have made a home out of WF.

    Let us go back to these white nationalists for a moment. A couple years back we had a number of them post a hijacked racist symbol coming from stormfront related places. This was Pepe the frog.:

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    remember this guy? This was a cartoon character that was creasted by a person with no racist meaning. It was hijacked and used by the white nationalist racists to signal to each other who they were by using a supposedly neutral image that should not have been banned as it was a non racist IP. The trolling point here was a common one. By using this symbol you forced the destruction of a non-racist IP through banning it. This is an old troll trick to hijack something hard to ban so that you forced moderators to implement restrictions on speech.

    Notice how WF mods never did a fucking thing to the users of this avatar and symbol to harass black people and spread racial hate? Yeah, because it was mainly an anti-black symbol with a semi-suggestive anti-semetic background. Yes, the white nationalist movement is anti-semetic. Far more powerfully anti semetic in the US and europe than any Muslim hatred of Isreal and jews. It was probably also left alone because the white nationalist movement also supports wiping out the muslims and the nation of isreal is more important as a tool against muslims in the middle east. Odd how the likes of Dr. Krieg and people like @14thDoctor will snuggle up to the Jews will not replace us crowd when they go after browner people like muslims.

    Keep this shit in mind when you are looking to moderate things for the oppression of any anti-Isreal discussions. remember some in the ranks of WF moderators have huge biases and those need to be checked from time to time./ Recognize how long it took to come down on people like Storm while these people are calling for such a quick end to a statement that says free palestine, and clearly not kill all of Isreal or the jews.
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