So I'm finally watching nuBSG

Discovered it's available free on Peacock and now I'm about two-thirds of the way through Season 2. Thoughts so far:

• Damn -- Adama, Roslin and Starbuck are great characters.
• I learned very quickly not to even skim any character articles on the BSG wiki, after too many where the lead paragraph includes "at the beginning of the series, he/she believes him/herself to be..."
• I'm glad the "Is this person a Cylon? What about that person?" stuff is starting to be less prominent, because it was getting tiresome -- sort of like watching S2 of Buffy and going "oh, for cripes sake, just let Joyce find out already!" On a similar note, I am so ready for Baltar's secret to get spilled so he can have a damn redemption arc already.
• The politics episodes are even more boring than DS9 Klingon episodes.

Really enjoying it overall.

"the Adama Maneuver" was the coolest thing.

you may want to divert to the webisodes between S2-3. They don't really spoil anything, but definitely fill it out.

After watching this, then you’ve got to watch Eureka season ... 4 I believe it is.

Yup, although we shouldn't say anything about this or when it occurs because @tafkats hasn't seen it yet.

Definitely, there is a link here that has them all edited together (this is actually how it was originally written, and then was just broken into chunks to trickle out over the season break).

Cannot emphasize enough that you don't want to watch this until you've finished season 2 though.

Oh man there are a few points there where I'm very interested to read your reactions to the rest of the series.

yup... that there is such a thing to look forward to is all they're gettin' outta me

Just so you know, there is a review thread. It’s not complete though.
https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/nubsg-frackin-review-thread.110454/

Don't cut yourself on all that EDGE.

I cannot overstate how excited I am for you. But also, you're definitely a Cylon.

I'm in the middle of the New Caprica occupation arc, and took a short break to check out the original. And, um ... did SeaQuest DSV totally rip off the BSG theme?

Also, nuBaltar is way better than original Baltar. The guy who has more or less the same sense of morality as everyone else, but lets his self-interest override it and keeps getting in over his head, is a lot more interesting to watch than the Snidely Whiplash "I shall be the ruler of the world, mwahahahaha" variety of villain.

Been plowing through my DVD copies of it myself. I continue to think they got damn luck to snag Mary McDonnell and Edward James Olmos. Lightning-in-a-bottle lucky. And I must agree with Spaceturkey. Exodus part 2 was the peak. They still finished on a higher note than most shows, but they never quite hit that level again.

Bear McCreary as well smashing it with the music. The soundtrack to Exodus Part 2 was probably the musical highpoint of the show and it's impossible to hear without visualising all the things happening.

Behind spoiler tags because of the name of the track:

Okay, I'm really impressed by the New Caprica arc.

If a Star Trek episode started with most of the crew on a Crapsack World where they'd been living for the past year, as well as the revelation that several main characters are now married to each other, there would be a Magic Reset Button at the end of two hours.

Wait until you get to the boxing episode a few eps later, "Unfinished Business". But please seek out the extended version if you can.

Man, I gotta say that

really hit me hard.

OK NOW YOU'VE SEEN IT PLEASE RAVE ABOUT HOW GOOD THE ESCAPE FROM NEW CAPRICA WAS PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

I found it on CometTV a few months ago and got tipped off to it being on Peacock so I could fill in on episodes I missed on TV so I finally just finished it--and thus resurrected an old thread about it over at TK. Since it's such an old show there are no spoiler tags, so I wouldn't advise going there until you get to the end but it is a decent thread. Without getting into any spoilers I'll say the acting is great, the production values are great. It's hard to believe the show probably had a smaller budget than, say VOY. The storytelling leans heavily on the mystical crutch but the actual stories are compelling enough that I don't mind. And the producers respect the viewer enough that they leave some things ambiguous instead of clobbering you over the head with something. And since you've already seen S1& 2, I'll mention the Kobol story arc. I'm rewatching that right now and man...I was thinking of binging on both parts of "Kobol's Last Gleaming" for the big payoff of them all standing there in the Arrow of Apollo/Temple of Athena Planetarium when I realized there was a lot more stuff that had to happen. The whole story arc with Baltar and Crashdown and all the others, Helo and Starbuck meeting Anders on Caprica, etc and went over to Wiki. They spend something like 10 episodes on Kobol. With Star Trek (TNG and later) they'd have been like "There's plenty of stuff to stretch this into a 2 parter!" BSG spends half a season on it.

Oh, and along with plot holes and such, the show *is* guilty of the "Trip's sister"--sticking something in out of the blue because it is needed to advance the plot--Apollo had a thing for a blonde MILF back on Caprica so he's got a crush on a hooker? There's a stein for the #1 fighter pilot on the ship? The thing is, they actually make it work so you don't mind it much. It isn't like "Bad news Trip, the Xindi destroyed Florida." "NOOOO! My sister!!!!" "Bummer, man. ... You had a sister?"

I dunno.. that episode seemed to draw on OG-BSG for the character concept (Cassiopia, the "socialator"). It didn't seem wholly out of place for Lee to be looking for a domesticated version of what RL escorts I know refer to as "the girlfriend experience" (contrast to the conundrum of the relationship with Starbuck where he won't cheat and she won't divorce), nor did it seem hard to believe that an underworld would develop in a refugee caravan any more than they do in real world camps.

Except that Cassiopeia was Starbuck's jam, not Apollo's, so even then it's still kind of out of nowhere.

OG Starbuck was also tapping Athena though, and frankly most of us would've rather seen that relationship.

I preferred Athena to Cassie for sure. Maren Jensen. Yes, please, thank you.

let's just take a second to appreciate women in motocross boots, shall we?

1) That picture so perfectly illustrates the importance and skill of lighting and photography. Because properly lit, that would look like a fairly badass command center, but in a Polaroid flash, it looks like a sheet of grey plywood with brown boxes painted on it and
2) The S2 Cylon boarding party episode! In EVERY OTHER EPISODE BEFORE OR AFTER Centurions are pretty easily killed by small arms fire. Helo kills quite a few on Caprica. They kill them on Kobol. They kill them everywhere. But if they're on Galactica? Takes an exploding round *exactly* to the head to kill a Centurion. Because Trip's sister.

It's weird now to see people complaining that Discovery and Picard are "too dark," when for years we had people holding up nuBSG as what Voyager should have been like.

Not so much that Voyager should have been nuBSG, rather that it makes you imagine what Voyager could have been if they had properly respected the premise.

Voyager could have been an optimistic show while still having the ship not get reset button repaired ever episode and essentially having unlimited supplies. Heck it could have been more optimistic while doing so. When you have unlimited resources it means nothing to spend some of them. If Voyager does only have a handful of shuttles and rapidly dwindling weapon supplies though it means a heck of a lot more when they risk them to defend someone they've just met and after moving on will never meet again just because it's the right thing to do.

Same with the Maquis. Most of them becoming generic Starfleet officers after their own ship is destroyed means nothing. If they kept their identity separate throughout the show but were working together for a common goal because you can accomplish more together than separately then that's a much more Trek message. Would also give more impact when at some point the Maquis ship is sacrificed to save Voyager.

I have to stop looking up anything about the show. I just found out about

a season early because it popped up about four items into a Google search.