So nothing about this? Feds engage in cattle rustling, assault, in Nevada

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Nope, they gots them a new Stand Yer Ground hero.
  2. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    The Real Story Behind The Bundy Ranch Harassment
    http://danaloeschradio.com/

    "Cliven Bundy’s problem isn’t that he didn’t pay — he did — or that his cattle bother tortoises — they don’t — it’s that he’s not a Reid donor."
  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I betcha Dana has copies of all of Bundy's receipts, doesn't she? Or a copy of the deed showing he's the actual owner? No?

    But I bet she'd support your perceived right to shoot someone canoeing down the river that runs through your property, wouldn't she? :diacanu:
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  4. John Castle

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    The moral of the story is, of course, that in some peoples' eyes the Feds can do no wrong -- no matter how much wrong the Feds are doing.
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  5. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    OMG. It's benghazzi/IRS/Vincent Foster all over again!
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Doesn't fucking matter. This is a case of government overreach and shady deals by Harry Reid. Just as I guessed, it's the Feds imposing their will on people. Its a giant case of eminent domain and the Feds don't want to pony up the money for this man's cattle, so they use the tortoise as an excuse.
  7. John Castle

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    Only inasmuch as you still thought the Feds were pure as virginal angels after those things, too. But the religiously devoted are like that.
  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    The "excuse" is that Bundy's a deadbeat who's been grazing his cattle on the Gubmint teat for decades. But you're okay with that kind of handout.
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  9. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Did you read the article? The rancher paid his fees for years and built fences with his own money and now his cattle is being stolen and killed without compensation. It's not a handout by any means.
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    The Feds are Darth Vader and the Rancher is Lando Calrisian.
    [YT] [/YT]
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Damn straight! Nobody wants to chase down Indians way off in the woods to visit their casinos and buy tax-free cigarettes - keep them where we can find them.
  13. John Castle

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    And you've demonstrated amply that you're okay with every other kind, so what's your point?
  14. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    The article says he stopped paying his fees five years ago.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Liar.
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    And then he stopped paying them, over two decades ago.
    Meaningless.
    Which is his own fault, since he refused to keep them within the boundaries of his own property for over two decades.
    Not any more, it's not. :)
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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Gee, I wonder why? He's been in court and the reason he stopped paying fees is because the Feds are using the money to drive him out. If my landlord took me to court for "damages" I'd probably stop paying rent. I wouldn't be surprised if his lawyer advised him to stop paying until the matter is settled.
  19. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Not surprisingly, you've got it backwards.
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    You do realize they're only backing down because militia idiots came in to protect this guys continued theft and they don't want a bloodbath, right?

    I bet I could take whatever I wanted too, if I had a group of armed anti-government nuts covering me. :shrug:
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  21. Steal Your Face

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  22. garamet

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    Aw, gee. No blaze of glory after all...
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    Or if you had an armed government taking what ever they wanted. Originally I was unsure, as per my original post. However as more has come to light, I am more inclined to call shenanigans on the part of the government. As I and others have said he continued to pay, but to the county and state, until they stopped accepting payments. Then there is the issue of the tortoise apparently being used as a red herring and the suspicious land deals. As for the court rulings, wouldn't be the first time the courts have found on favor of the government when by all logical rights they shouldn't have. In the end there is a lot more at play here than just a cantankerous old fact deciding to steal from the government.
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  24. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    The folks who scream the loudest about something are usually just covering up their own inadequacies. In this case, either Federal Farmer realizes he's a socialist and hopes to cover it up, or more likely, he just doesn't understand that he is what he thinks he hates.
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    Looks like the WF Authoritards will have to wait for another day to pop the corks off their bottles of malbec after law enforcement agents gun down another harmless guy. :shrug:
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  26. Steal Your Face

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    Armed thugs steal from the public, libertarianforge celebrates!
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  28. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Nine times out of ten you can bet it's the government pulling shenanigans. I don't understand why the courts would favor the government, just doesn't make sense. How much you wanna bet this type of shit happens all the time in the West? Its just this guy had the balls to stand up to them.
  29. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So you won't be shooting any "harmless guy" who decides to squat on your property. Very communistic of you.
  30. John Castle

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    What story are you talking about?