Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Not to get too into the weeds on this but "non-binary" is about (a) how you percive your own identity, quite apart from the physicality - in the same way that I percived myself as female LONG before having any visually female "parts"; and (b) consequently how you are comfortable presenting yourself to the world. I admit that even as a trans person I do not "grok" how one could feel an identity that is not basically one of the binary options or the other, it is as alien to me as my own identity is no doubt alien to you, but I accept and respect it in the same way I expect to be respected and accepted by cis folks.

That said, according to interviews available online, Blu - who is indeed quite young - had not entirely recognized herself as NB when filming started which is why the scripts (so far) refer to her as "she/her", and that they write that progression into the character arch as well.

Ah but Adria isn't Starfleet, she's an Earther (still not even wearing a uniform) although her previous host was so there's some "knowledge of the galaxy" resource to the character.

come on man, follow the thread. You asked "do they know that..."
The show illustrates that indeed, they do "know that"

It's not necessary that the aftershow explains it TO YOU since clearly you know, nor is it necessary to explain it to the casual viewer since it has nothing to do with any plot point.

It looked like several of her previous hosts were Starfleet, I figured they were interviewing her at the same time as Saru and Michael to see if she deserved to be reinstated in Starfleet based on those experiences. (Sisko was able to get Ezri a promotion and an earlier counsellor certification based on her symbionts experience.)

Not to mention Odan (the original trill) seemed to continue on as a federation ambassador regardless of host.


And that was long before Starfleet was in a shitty desperate situation, so...

What makes you think he doesn't buy into the dog-whistles?

Well, deep down I don't, but now you've ruined the surprise of me luring him out.

I don't see how Burnham's saving the galaxy is any more ridiculous than Picard's. But that's a matter of taste.

But it is a matter of fact that she certainly didn't do so alone.

Burnham could not have defeated Control without the help of Discovery and its crew and the Enterprise and its crew.

ETA: I think it is way more accurate to say that Picard both caused and solved the anti-time paradox aloen than that he did so as part of an ensemble. Yes, the crew followed his orders and he needed them to get to the place where it happened and to fire that energy beam. But Q made it a personal challenge and Picard figured it out without much reliance on the rest of the crew.

What makes you say this? As opposed to trying to be like BSG, any number of shows, or God forbid their own entity?

A. How do you know?
B. Why does the Burn and its aftermath need to be a multiple season arc for it to be good?

If it isn't abundantly obvious already, a certain poster in this thread clearly buys into the dog-whistles. His modus operandi is to spew a bunch of stupid, hateful shit and then back-pedal while acting the victim.

But that's enough about that. This is Media Central.

Let's talk Trek.

Plus, who's to say that they didn't cut off his antennae every time they grew back?

Or that there are not some antenna injuries that Andorians generally won't regenerate from?

Or that Andorians of a certain age don't regenerate antenna? [Just like humans of a certain age are not going to bounce back from injury as quickly]

Or that there was something special about the Andorian in this episode that meant that he personally couldn't regrow his antennae? [Just as most humans can process sugars with no problems but some can't.]

Funny how you wanna talk Trek now, yet you and @Ten Lubak talk shit and troll me every opportunity and nobody does anything about it, but if I say anything negative here comes @shootER to the rescue and I’m the one who gets warned. Fuck off with your bullshit. I’m fucking so sick of it.

Then they aren’t really bi are they?

What about twinks, and ladyboys, and butch lesbians?
Eh?
Again, you're mixing gender expression up with crotch plumbing.

Have a cry about it, maybe you’ll feel better

I don’t need things explained to me, I need them to make sense. This show doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

No I’m not Michael Burnham.

This show doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to you.. everyone else seems to be able to draw the line between A and B just fine.

also
"did the writers know...?"
only requires a yes or no, not an explanation

Anyone who's ever had a mole frozen off knows that the body isn't capable of healing all types of damage equally. That @The Ghost of Crazy Horse seems to need this explained is more a reflection of him than of the writers.

1. Do you define yourself as straight or heterosexual?

2. If so, do you find yourself attracted to absolutely every female you see?

In case this was a reading comprehension issue:

Someone could be attracted to only two types of people
1. Men who present as traditionally masculine
2. Women who present as traditionally feminine.

Such a person would be bisexual but not pansexual.

It's only Discovery that he needs these explanations for. Or at least, I haven't seen him post about these types of issues relative to anywhere elese in the franchise except for Lower Decks. (In fairness, maybe he does for Picard. I haven't been in the WF forum for that show.)

You speak for everyone now? People here may think the show makes sense, but I've seen a lot of other fans elsewhere have the same complaints I have and think certain things don't make sense. Don't believe me, venture over to TBBS or read comments on Youtube or check other Star Trek forums.

1.Yes
2. No

Don't ever read YouTube comments on anything.

But you can't imagine a bisexual person being attracted to masculine men and feminine women but nothing in between?

that sounds like wanting to be the processed cheese between two slices of untoasted wonder bread :/

back on topic - overall i like the outward appearance refit. Particularly the color change and the shorter nacelles

Hey! Size doesn’t matter!

Or... the choice of a new Number One can put her under MORE control. The last scene where she took off her badge seems to say to me that she seriously thinking of leaving Star Fleet and gallivanting off with Book t focus on The Burn.