Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

I'm trying to approach this episode and the series it is supposed to be representative of with an open mind.

But if you're going to have a story that focuses on the Klingons shouldn't you have something that at least "vaguely" resembles Klingons? If not the makeup jobs, how about the uniforms, or how about at least the ships? Why completely reinvent the Klingons?

Yes, I plan on watching both episodes tomorrow after I pir... I mean pay for CBS All Access.

Found myself asking that same question. If you're revisiting the Klingon well for the umpteenth time, how about recognizable Klingons? At least they got the language right. But I see no reason to ignore fifty years of character development and backstory for the sake of being new and shiny.

Thank you Klingons for lighting up the Federation bridge so I could see it.

Klingon Empire in disarray for decades?

Isn’t this show set like 10 years before TOS.

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First Officer commits mutiny but you know nothing will happen to her.

No one bother to asks the Captain if the First Officers orders are valid.

Hahahahahahahahaha

Don't like the Klingons. At all.

Jesus, 4-5 minutes of commercials per break, 7 minutes of show before each break, yeah, I enjoyed my tiny Trek minisodes in between the infomercials.
Now if only my mind could stitch them together into a whole show.
I'm gonna have to torrent it just to remember what the fuck I even saw.

What's up with having Daft Punk on the bridge?

no
football goes over, pushes everything back including 60 Minutes which is what Oprah was on

Pillsbury doughboy?

She's a fatass, And useless, she pre-empted the show.

being pushed by by 20 minutes or so is not pre-emption. Pre-emption is when they show you want to see isn't going to be on.

Shut up.

And it isn't like the First Officer's knowledge of the Klingons is represented as being anything special. About all we got out of this episode was her family was apparently killed by the Klingons in a raid when she was a child.

This makes her "expertise" little more relevant than Chekov in "Day of the Dove" screaming about Piotr.

My great hope for decent space opera has been reduced to watching "The Orville".

Even "The Last Ship" has become almost unwatchable as they are spending this season chasing seeds resistant to plant rust! Seriously.

What? What the hell?

Is this show an hour?

Checking.......

Yep. Didn’t fill like it. Went back through it and realized the commercials were almost as long as the show.

Show sucked.

So.....

I agree about far too much commercials
I agree that the reimagined Klingons tired WAY too hard - I get some Klingons maybe don't have hair, maybe wear different outfits or fly different ships but - these fuckers didn't even have ears.


Otherwise....

I absolutely LOVED it. I mean, anything else I would say would just be gushing. Damned if I'll nitpick what the Klingons have been playing at for a hundred years or how dark the bridge is. I loved the storytelling, the characters, the actors, and the performances (on the Federation side). This was considerably better than I'd let myself hope.

@shootER should the thread title have spoilers within added?

A few observations:

1) They broke out the technobabble way too early for my taste.
2) This is way too thin of a story to build the series on. War breaks out with the Klingons because the Federation annoys the sacred Klingon burial "buoy"?????
3) This whole thing of "we've heard virtually nothing from the Klingons in 100 years" smacks way too much of TOS "Balance of Terror" and TNG "The Neutral Zone".

Why do they keep recycling that old idea? Hostile alien race we haven't heard from in decades? It adds basically nothing to the story and serves no purpose whatsoever.

4) I have a feeling that this was once a far bigger story with a more elaborate plot but from whatever reasons got drastically chopped down somewhere along the line.

The redheaded helms... girl. She's gorgeous.

This is a major flagship tentpole TV show that CBS is trying to use to launch a major push of CBS All Access.

You don’t fucking push it back for Oprah.

You push her back.

Oh and Klingons don’t give a dam about the body once the Klingon is dead. There are no Klingon burials.

In Klingon lore once you’re d ad your spirit leaves the body.

The First Officer is the Sheldon Cooper of the Federation.

I think CBS has given up on that idea. There have long been rumors that CBS had lost faith in the series. To me the way it is being handled speaks volumes.

Yeah, 60 Minutes gets delayed by football all the time. They should've made an exception for tonight, though, and joined 60 Minutes in progress so Discovery could start at its scheduled time.

But...I think they're dumb to be doing the whole All Access thing with this show anyway.

It was entertaining enough, but I'm not going to be paying for CBS All Access to watch it. I'm also not likely to go to the trouble of finding some way to illegally download it, so unless CBS is lax enough to let people put it up on YouTube without flagging it, I probably won't see any more.

Now I've seen the second episode. Yeah, this show is going to need to pick up real quick to survive. So far it's too many cliches and total lack of suspense given that we know Burnham is the star of the series. There are moments of potential hidden in it, but there's too much "change for the sake of change" curiously mixed with "boldly going where we've gone too many times already."

Seeing it without commercials definitely helps. The first ep didn't even run sixty minutes with commercials, tho. CBS seriously needs to rethink their approach to streaming.

O. M. G.

It's weird how they seemed to mix original series sounds with TNG sounds. Or it seemed like to me.

I'm not a fan of Burnham right now. She's just annoying.