Star Trek: Picard.

I have to be honest. I don’t care at all about the Picard series.

He was a great character and Patrick Stewart is an amazing actor but I felt like his story had a satisfactory ending with ‘All Good Things’ or maybe ‘First Contact’ (not Nemesis though, that movie was garbage).

I have no interest in finding out what happens afterwards. I guess I’m just not into new Star Trek anymore. I’ll watch an occasional rerun of TOS/TNG/DS9 but have no interest in any of stuff which came after or any of the stuff in the works now.

Kind of feel the same way about Star Wars. After episode 9 I’m checking out. I’ve really already checked out but I just want to see how this current trilogy ends. Morbid curiosity perhaps.

Then go play in some other thread.

It’s a discussion board. I’m free to give my opinion on a particular topic just as much as anyone else here.

I’m not trolling anyone or telling people to not watch the show. If you are into it, have at it.

I agree with @Zor Prime.

He's politely expressing his opinion and not trolling.

There are at least three or four other posters in this very forum who believe it's an indictable offense to like any of the new SW or ST films/shows, and they won't be happy until everyone else is unhappy.

Ohhh, all right.
I won't kill him this time.

Yeah I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade.

If it turns out to be a really good show maybe I’ll check it out or at least keep up with the discussion.

I won’t ever buy CBS All Access however.

You monster! You’re supposed to eat up everything with the name Star Trek slapped on it and never criticize or question any of it or you’re not a true fan.

You're not a victim of anything.
Whatever Youtube or Twitterverse dimwit that taught you this was a good avenue to go down needs to be excised from your diet.
It's bullshit, and it's bad for you.

Dude, you’re like this with every beloved franchise, you refused to acknowledge Ghostbusters 2016 sucked even though everyone hated it, you refuse to acknowledge The Last Jedi sucked even though everyone hated it, you refused to acknowledge Solo sucked even though everyone hated it, you refused to acknowledge that Discovery has serious writing flaws even though everyone can see it, and you refuse to acknowledge Alex Kurtzman is just not a good writer and people have every justification to be skeptical about Picard when we also know Patrick Stewart was also responsible for the crap in Nemesis and is in some capacity involved in the writing of this show. Just because I’m a Star Trek fan does not mean I have to like everything that is labeled Star Trek. Same goes for any franchise that I love.

*Mute button*

*Kicks up feet, and sighs with relaxation*

You use the word "everyone" a lot for someone who doesn't personally know everyone and therefore can't fucking judge what "everyone" thinks.

Not just in the entertainment world, either, which is why you get buttraped in the political threads in the Red Room so much.

Of course you aren’t going to read it because why?

I read it. And even the writing on The Last Jedi looks like Shakespeare in comparison.

Difference is, TLJ can be enjoyed for other reasons than the quality of the writing.

You can't be enjoyed even by a gimp who has a gallon of lube available.

You know what I mean.

I know the truth behind your words, yes.

Whether you do is another matter.

Okay, I'll bite: What serious writing flaws are these?

I thought that was Harrison Ford on the stage for a second.

It’s already been covered in the DSC thread.

I'm not about to go through all 20 or so fucking pages of that to find out what you're talking about. You'll have to remind me because I don't remember anything significant mentioned.

I think he means something in a Red Letter Media video.
Because they're Gods, and know everything about film-making and screenwriting.
Oh, wait, they're just a couple goofy humps with opinions like everyone and their buddies.

Their opinions are more valuable than yours because, you know, they’ve been to film school and know about it than you, but they’re not the only ones.

Nope, faulty premise.
There's no objective criteria for art.
If there were, everyone would make a successful movie, because the formula would be cracked.
Hasn't been.
Ain't gonna be.
Don't wait for it.

So has George Lucas.
And he made the prequels.
So....

There are story telling and writing elements that have been established and are crucial to every story, you don’t get to deny that. If those elements are not in a story or are poorly executed, nothing will save that story.

And what elements are missing from Discovery? I was an English major with a Psych minor in college and I also made an effort to not only read the great writers, but books on how to write, and also the other texts (like The Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell, which is where Lucas got the idea for Star Wars from). So I have some idea of how things are supposed to work, I didn't notice any missing story elements from Discovery. I'm also the kind of asshole a lot of people hate to go to movies with, because if I spot something like a plothole, I won't STFU about it after the movie's over. Fucking M:I 3 was so riddled with them and stupid shit that had I bumped into Tom Cruise or JJ Abrams on my way out of the theater, I'd have clubbed them like a baby harp seal.

And they're broken all the time to good effect.

"The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy", has no goal or through-line, it's just a bunch of random crazy stuff that happens.
Its considered a sci-fi comedy classic, if not an outright masterpiece.

Whoa, there, slow down a minute, cowboy. HHGttG actually follows a number of established literary traditions. Like Swift's Gulliver's Travels, it's a classic fish-out-of-water/social commentary work of satire.

What's Arthur's hero's journey?
He's just as baffled at the end as when he started.
At least Gulliver has the good grace to lose his marbles.

Suriving the destruction of the Earth and exploring the galaxy.

But he's also much wiser.

"I think I shall go mad" Arthur declares at one point.