Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

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    Weird, it came up at first - might be a hotlink blocker. Screengrab instead:

    Odd, won't paste into this, but can paste into new post....

    This site's buggier than Klendathu.
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    I'm a Trek fan, but not so much of a nerd that I knew those symbols were actually a thing.

    I still say it's the CBS logo. :bailey:
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    It looks sort of like a CBS logo, but since it came about when Star Trek was under the banner of NBC, I highly doubt anyone intended that.
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    What's with the medical thing that doesn't even match the others in color? McCoy wore a sciences insignia.
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    Nurse chapel wore a medical insignia and Chapel is in SNW.
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    Yep.

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  11. Diacanu

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    Teaser!

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    I see Kurtzman still thinks that we’ll still be using solar and wind power in a society that has basically unlimited free power.:jayzus:
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    Anti-matter would be used in big cities, but household power out in the country, probably not as needed.
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    :wtf:

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    Sorry I don’t buy that. They wouldn’t be using wind and solar it’s 300 years from now, there would be an alternate energy source. It’s a huge lack of imagination on their part, but I’m used to it by now. They just don’t know anything about Star Trek.
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    Too bad.
    :shrug:

    Like what?
    Neutrinos? Casimir power?
    If they could do that, they'd strap it to the ships too.
    They're kind of constrained by what TOS set up.
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    I don’t know look up what people are working on today and futurize it. We already know people are working on fusion power, there’s the Safire project which is some kind of plasma power, better yet, don’t put stupid shit in your trailer that people are going to notice and say something about it.
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    This is possibly the dumbest objection I've seen yet. Sorry, FF. This is just silly.
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  19. Diacanu

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    And again, those things are too expensive, and too heavy duty for household power out in the country boonies.
    Solar and wind are good enough for the boonies.
    Powering a farm with fusion would be like hooking your phone charger up to a Niagra Falls turbine.
    It's too much.
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    The Federation is wise enough not to use a hammer to crack a nut - if renewable energy sources will do, why bother with the more complex fusion or antimatter reactors.

    And no, antimatter power sources aren't unlimited in Pike's time, or no-one would be worried about Coridan... you need dilithium to make that tech work, and that IS a finite resource even after Scotty develops the recrystallisation methods in STIV.
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    ^ This is the best part
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    It’s also inconsistent and lazy. Assuming we see SF in SNW,San Francisco Bay Bridge will have solar panels on it. Discovery we see solar panels. TOS we don’t really see San Francisco, TOS movies no solar panels. It remains that way through the end of Voyager. Then in Picard they’re back. Then Discovery jumps 1,000 years in the future and they’re still there and San Francisco still looks the same. Come on.
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    Hey! Didn't the U.S.S. Yorktown deploy solar sails after the Probe in ST:IV knocked out their power?

    Fucking inconsistent Trek writers. :rant:

    Don't they know nobody uses solar power in the future?
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    Do you see the black thing behind the communicator in this shot?

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    It's a rotary phone. Made from Bakelite plastic. It has a number of disadvantages when compared to a modern smartphone, but it enables you to do something no smartphone can do: You could beat a fucking rhino to death with that thing and still make calls with it afterward. Try doing that with your iPhone or whatever.

    In The Cage, we're given the impression that Pike likes to play cowboy.
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    We'll ignore the fact that you can see where they put the different sections of astroturf down, that plants are all plastic, and that the rocks are styrofoam. Just look at Pike's outfit and the picnic Vina's laid out for them. Not exactly keeping with the aesthetic one would expect in the 23rd Century. Ever heard of aerogels? It's basically the ultimate insulation, you think your Yeti cooler keeps shit cold, a cooler lined with aerogels could keep dry ice frozen for centuries. So why don't they have one of those, and why is Pike wearing a denim leisure suit in the 23rd Century?

    We could pass it off as being a sign of the times for when it was shot, or we could go with the idea that Pike's the kinda guy who likes to live "rusticly." You know, one of those folks who lives in a house that from the outside looks like an old wooden cabin, but on the inside has all kinds of modern amenities, like internet, giant screen TVs, indoor plumbing, etc. that a lot of folks have today. When I was watching the episode back in 1979, as an 11-year-old kid, Pike's outfit struck me as being really weird because it didn't fit in with the aesthetic that I expected from the series. As I've gotten older, I've opted to handwave it away the same as I do when I see somebody cosplaying a character from history, while wearing clothing that was made using methods that didn't exist when said character was supposed to have lived.

    Here's a couple of possibilities as to why there might be windmills (didn't see any solar panels in the teaser) that don't require any great leaps of logic, or ignore the possibility of Pike being able to have an antimatter reactor in the closet of his cabin:
    1.) Pike lives on a historic site and is required by law to at least make the place look like it did ages ago. This is a fairly common thing in cities in the US with a "historic district." You're allowed to make any modifications you want to the interior of your residence, but exterior modifications have to be consistent with the time period in which the place you live (or the building your company operates in) was originally built. So, if you've got a place that was built in the 1700s, you can't tack on a garage that looks like it belongs in a Tron movie.

    2.) Pike's the kind of guy who wants to unwind in a place like folks lived in during "the good old days" but isn't quite as challenging as what folks had to endure back then. Like today, when somebody has a cabin in the woods, but they still have cell service, internet access, and the wood that they use to heat the place was cut down using a chainsaw, and then split using a hydraulic log splitter, as opposed to how someone might have done it in the 19th Century, while still calling it "roughing it," even though if shit gets too bad, they can hop into their $50K+ SUV and be staying in a Motel 6 in less than an hour.

    And I have now explained it all away without resorting to "a wizard did it" or some other shit like stupid plotonium frequently invoked by every franchise out there that you could name.
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    Hey you stupid bint, solar sails are a method of propulsion not power generation, so they're still fucked. Gah! Don't you know anything?
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    Let me interrupt the nonsensical nitpicking to offer my own reaction to the trailer: :yeehaw: :j:



    Carry on. :salute:
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  28. Bailey

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    Why would the cabin have upgraded to a fusion generator or similar when it was already connected to perfectly fine wind turbines?

    We've seen tons of examples throughout Trek of people using very outdated tech, but we accept it because it's things that we accept as historic. No reason that something modern from our time couldn't be seen as a traditional old fashioned way of doing things in the 23rd century.
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    I think you're missing the point that in the mid-20th Century, almost every American had easy access to rhino killing technology! Why would anyone want to live in a society where their primary communication device was incapable of killing rhinos? What kind of shitty future is it when the average person doesn't have ready access to something that enables them to beat rhinos to death? Clearly, you, and the folks attached to this series are just a bunch of shitty poopyheads with no respect for Treklore. You should probably kill yourself right now, or at least a few seconds before I posted this if you're at all authentic fans of Trek. :bailey:
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    Kirk chopped fire wood.
    End of.
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