Star Trek: VOY Reviews - From Start to Suicide!

I can’t wait for the spirits of Tom Paris and Harry Kim to be broken like mine was:

That’s kinda cool. Too bad it’s VOY.

Talk about infringement. There already is such a podcast:
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Bumped this thread because it seemed most relevant.

Working from home I've been putting on shows I've seen before in the backround for some white noise, occasionally tuning in.

God help me, I've had to often stop Voyager episodes because I'm getting into them. I'm only up to late season 2 on the rewatch, so know a lot of pain is to come, but with 20 years since I last saw a lot of this I'm actually enjoying it despite the flaws.

It's funny, but I've been seeing a lot of that in Trekdom, far more than I have with TNG for all its acclaim and praise.

Come to think of it, DISCO and PIC and maybe even Lower Decks could all pull at that particular string to deal with all that. Won't that be great?

Also, just watched 30 Days again, and maybe it's me and all the anti cop stuff these days, but wouldn't Paris' punishment seen a bit cruel for the 24th century? Granted, it's not as bad as solitary confinement in a modern prison but given nothing got destroyed besides Janeway's ego, it just seems like a lot.

Also, I connected with that episode far more now than when I first saw it years ago

Paris is lucky he didn't get sentenced to death.

He had a PADD though.
Theoretically, that gives him every movie or song ever made, plus Neelix's Youtube vlog.
...course, dunno if or how much Janeway put restriction locks on it.
Probably no Xoom calls to Harry or B'Lanna.

Voyager has found it's moment.
It's covid-Trek.
Voyager is us in our houses, and the Delta Quadrant is Trump-merica attacking us from all sides.

Until you get to the ep with the macrophages flying around the ship and Janeway going all Ripley. They should rename that "Attack of the Rones".

And 2020 is the year from hell.

What I ultimately found impressive was how much they were able to side-step it entirely and prove my statement wrong. DISCO’s set so far in the future that they can just get away with references to the Temporal Cold War and LD’s set on a ship that isn’t dealing with anything hugely important anyway.

PIC had the hardest time working around it, and ultimately demurred - casting the Federation as an increasingly isolationist “sleeping giant” that was largely abandoning its peacekeeper role to avoid any real ramifications of what Voyager brought back with them. And despite Borg being a key player in the season, it’s only really stated through inference that Janeway didn’t genocide them out of existence.

I'm sure any future tech Voyager had onboard was immediately seized and quarantined by Starfleet. Temporal prime directive and all that.

And yet somehow Bryan Fuller talked them into letting him remake Christine again, but without all the space stuff.

https://gizmodo.com/bryan-fuller-is-remaking-stephen-king-killer-car-classi-1847055222

I’ve been watching a lot of Voyager lately. Yes the first few seasons are bad in many ways, but overall, I think there are some decent episodes. 25 years later I just like science fiction as a whole and I love Star Trek so I can get past the bad episodes. There’s always something to like. Discovery even has its good moments.

All of that being said, “Threshold” is up there with “These Are the Voyages”.

"These Are the Voyages" is one of the greatest episodes in Star Trek history.

Mainly because it gave a big middle finger to ENT fans.

(P.S. - Honestly not trolling. Just stating my opinion.)

I thought the IDEA for "DISTANT ORIGIN" was A GREAT IDEA for an episode , but COMPLETELY SUCKED & was VERY SUBPAR & TERRIBLE in its execution.

Is there ANY REASON the makers of VOYAGER couldn't have hired a paleontologist to be their paleontological & scientific consultant for "DISTANT ORIGIN"?

Ugh. Don't say "Distant Origin." Those Voth maps are the current daily grind on STO.

I gotta say after years of hearing how bad this episode was, I was entirely underwhelmed by the time I watched it for the first time. The first half was decent enough, and the back half was bonkerballs but it's nowhere near the shit we got in "Code of Honor" or "Up the Long Ladder" in terms of Things That Should Not be Trek.

I’ll take “Spock’s Brain” over any one of those because at least you get Kirk and Bones.

Why should Up the Long Ladder not be in Trek?

For me worst episodes would be

TOS : Spock's Brain
TNG: Shades of Gray
DS9: Profit and Lace
Voy: Threshold
Enterprise: A Night In Sickbay

According to every Irish person I've ever run into online (as in "Irish by culture and living in Ireland"), it's as offensive to them as "Code of Honor" is to the black community.

Eh, "Shades of Grey" was only half bad for me. Decent first half with a dumb clip show they had to do bc of the strike that's easy enough to FF through.

"Profit and Lace" sucks on the "herp derp, Quark is a woman, ain't that wacky?" level it always did, but in light of what we know about gender, it sucks doubly so.

"Spock's Brain" is dumb camp I can't be mad at TBH.

ANIS would've been the uncontested worst episode of ENT for most of not for the finale and even now, it's it's a close second.

We did a group watch of Threshold at work a few weeks ago and it was a great contrast between those of us who knew what was coming, and the people in the room who were seeing it as their first episode of Trek.

That's a helluva introduction to Trek!

No judgement, I got to watch soft core decon porn on my first go around and I'm still here

As an Irish descendant growing up in an Irish community, I’ve just always taken it as Irish descendants colonizing a planet and began a culture based on a lot of inaccuracies.

But, I’ve always overlooked a lot of things that could/would/should be offensive to me as well, so … I can see where others might take offense.