Star Wars Episode VIII

And another thing about Snoke.

We see during the movie that Rey and Kylo are having Force Chats. We think it's because they are connected in someway but Snokes says it was him that allowed them to do that.

Consider how powerful Snokes has to be to allow the type of communication we see. Voice, vision, touch, even rain (on Kylo's hand).

And yet we learn nothing of who Snokes is or was.

And than we learn that Snokes is looking for Luke. He wants to kill him. Who is Snokes to Luke? Does Luke even know who Snokes is?

And if he's looking for Luke he should know where Luke is since Kylo saw Luke on the planet with Rey. So why the need to trick Rey into coming to him and torturing her to find Luke? Just go to Rey. If he's that powerful that he can get in her head that far away than certainly he can get the location and go there and kill Luke.

Anyways......

You are a kid or a seriously blind fanboy if you think this movie is the best or in the top of the group of movies now.

This movie is down at the bottom with the prequels.

Audience Strikes Back: 77% Friday-To-Friday Plunge For 'Last Jedi' Is Worst Ever For A Star Wars Pic

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcai...-worst-ever-for-a-star-wars-pic/#7383ad0e57fa

I was kinda shocked at how empty the theater was this Saturday when I went to see it. I was expecting it to be packed but it wasn't. That's anecdotal of course but there does appear to be a large drop-off if that article is accurate.

She's the hero ... I don't think she's any more of a Mary Sue than Luke, whose equivalent she basically is.

She's more Mary Sue than Luke in the sense she seems good at everything naturally.

But she's not Mary Sue in the sense that she's perfect at everything. She's not perfect like a Mary Sue would be.

She's a tad bit overpowered.

I'm rather neutral on her at this point. Her story doesn't actually interest me because she does seem overpowered. I like Finn, Poe, and even Kylo's stories better.

It's only made $500-million domestically and $1-billion internationally in only two weeks! Oh, the horror!

Oh, and methinks Forbes is overplaying things quite a bit. All SW films, with the exception of the original, have had week-over-week drops. In fact, based on Forbes' own chart, I'd say there's a trend of SW fatigue among audiences -- particularly in recent years given Disney's release saturation. Every movie since RotJ has shown an increase in week-over-week box office drops. No one went batshit crazy when Rogue One had a 68% drop.

IOW, big fucking deal.

Captain X negged you!
It's a meltdown!
A meltdown over a movie!
How immature!
I'm so cool!

Says the blind fanboy who is marking up multiple posts with fantasy rep because those posts challenge his view that this is teh best movie of all time.

Don't try and make excuses for it. It wasn't a parody.

The Tranformers movies make a bunch of money, but that doesn't make them good movies.

Many people who have criticized the movie have said they wanted to see it again before making a final judgement / score/ rank.

Everyone who hates the Transformers movies got off that train ages ago.
No one is going to Transformers, and going "this movie attacks the fanbase!! ".
Everyone who acts like TLJ shot their dad in front of them, they're going to see Episode 9.
And Han Solo.
And Obi-Wan.
And the Rian Johnson trilogy.

I had to watch it twice to really form an opinion on it, and that's a common criticism I've heard of it.

For those who saw TFA and TLJ and thought TLJ was mediocre are still going to watch Episode 9 regardless because we've already invested ourselves this far, just like we all did with AOTC. I may or may not see Solo or Kenobi in theaters, it depends on the trailers and reviews. I probably will see Kenobi in theaters as long as McGreggor is in it. As for Rian Johnson's new trilogy, yeah, I'm even more skeptical. I hated Looper and was already skeptical of TLJ, he better pull a miracle for me to even consider seeing it. But congratulations, you just joined Disney's propaganda team, "just slap the Star Wars label on it and those 40-50 year old nerd idiots will watch anything." It's the same thinking Paramount has for Star Trek. You've now officially sold out, idiot.

Anyway, here's Bob Igor on the subject.

I just gave Disney another $20 this afternoon and I've decided that I do indeed really like the film.

On second viewing, I have a much better appreciation for what Rian Johnson was trying to accomplish. Yes, the film has its flaws. I defy anyone to view any given Star Wars film and not find flaws.

FTFY.

Maybe it's the circles I travel in, but the only barking/whining/complaining I've ever seen about this film is online. I'm sure there's a study to be had in there somewhere about the internet and its effect on fans and film criticism.

This criticism of Snoke I keep encountering is both hilarious and getting tiresome. Let me spell it out for you:

Snoke. Is. Not. Important.

If you haven't figured it out already, the trilogy is about the Skywalker family. And guess what... Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is a Skywalker! Holy shit! Who knew?

Snoke is merely a means to an end. Like the Emperor before him, his backstory is irrelevant to the progression of the story at hand.

Every film has flaws, but you'd be hard pressed to find major ones in ESB or Raiders or TDK Inception or Harry Potter or TWOK and the like. This one has major flaws / Missed opportunities/ disappointments.

Name major flaws in those movies then.

Look 'em up yourself, sport.

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For two years they have been playing up the who is Snoke game.

So it’s not a means to an end.

You know what you don't see as a line of dialogue in TFA or TLJ?

"I wonder who Snoke is!! If only we knew!!".

Clearly, they know who Snoke is, and it's a mundane fact that doesn't need addressing.

Like Palpatine in ROTJ.
The characters know his rise to power as elementary school history.
We just weren't privy to it until the prequels.
And even that story didn't REALLY fill in the details.

Nope.
Not in the films.
That's all on anyone who speculated.

The people behind the films have been playing the whose Snoke game. You're a blind fanboy to not have noticed it.

They played him up far more than Lucas ever did the Emperor in the OT.

Ever notice how the same people that have a pulsating Sith boner for where Snoke came from aren't the least bit curious about how Maz Kanata got ahold of Luke's saber on Bespin?

Where?
Did it happen in an interview?
An action figure box description?
A trading card?
Or did a voice just whisper in your head?