Steinmeier elected president of Germany

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  1. Nono

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lected-germany-president-donald-trump-critic-

    That is, head of state, not political leader.

    I'm glad to see Steinmeier elected. Perhaps there wasn't much of an interval between the end of his political activity and the start of his non-partisan activity as federal president. But that's simply how the circs were.

    Watch the brief video of his acceptance remarks. I'm mighty glad to see that so many Europeans (the Germans, the Swedes, the Lithuanians, the French, etc.) are Not Mincing Their Words these days.
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    What a cheap shot from a liar. He needs to fuck off.
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    Where was the cheap shot? :unsure:
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    Calling the American President a hate monger for wanting to enforce the law for one then falsely implying the US was some how moving away from democracy. That worthless shit stain can suck a dick especially since he supports the anti Democratic authoritarian EU. Let me know when the EU stops being elites and actually let's people vote on major issues. Hell, the few times countries did have Democratic referendums the EU usually lost and then they just went ahead any way like the vote never happened.

    What a hypocritical waste of space.
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    Packard thinks it is a fantasy as he has been habituated to it. Let me know when German politicians stop censoring free speech for political reasons then we can talk about democracy.
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    In other European related news Jean the stupid clod Junckers will not be running again. He was the arrogant and extremely incompetent piece of shit who insured Brexit happened by arrogantly refusing to reform anything when the British PM asked him to. Even after it was perfectly clear British voters were fed up with the EU's arrogance and complete dysfunction. Since Brexit the out of touch Luxemburgian has been arrogantly and impotently raving about how he wants to punish the UK for daring to tell him no.

    He can fuck off and so can his club of failed politicians at the EU Commission. Unelectable at home because you are a slack jawed half wit? No problem! We will park you at the EU Commission as a kick back so you can keep sucking at the public tit and robbing taxpayers without any accountability for decades to come!
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    Fuck off Nazi.
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    You are deluded. BTW Paris is currently burning and experiencing rioting/looting with cars being set on fire by migrants with infant children still in the back seats. You can keep claiming everyone who doesn't want that in their neighborhood is a Nazi but I doubt voters will believe your horse shit. We shall soon see how loudly regular people yell " I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it any more."
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    Steinmeier is a little too friendly with Putin, for my taste.
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    He is an Armenian genocide denialist because he likes to suck the cock of the Turkish dictator. Fuck him.
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    Can you produce any evidence that he's "Putin-friendly"? Seriously, roll it on out.

    I think I know what you're talking about and would say he simply doesn't see the point of starting WWIII for no conceivable earthly gain.

    Anyway, he's no longer foreign minister. Precisely. He's now in an apolitical office, even if he was able to get in an oblique jab or two during his acceptance speech.
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    We have no fantasy land emoticon large enough to represent how completely you have removed yourself from reality with this post.

    Just for the record, I despise Steinmeier. But not only was the instance you're referring to not about denying the genocide, but Steinmeier was one of the few opposing the appeasement towards Turkey that followed the Bundestag's original joint statement.
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    Why do you despise Steinmeier? ... I mean, besides him being a wishy-washy example of the retrogressive Agenda2010-oid Schröder-era Social Democrats?

    He was also one of the few top people in a major NATO country to criticize "sabre-rattling" on the Russian border last summer, asking what the point was of cranking up the tension even further than it already was.

    As for Dindins, I'm beginning to think you can pretty safely assume that the opposite of what he claims is true. He's pretty reliable that way.
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    Wiki says you are wrong. I will go with wiki, thanks.
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    Armenian Genocide denialEdit
    Main article: Armenian Genocide denial
    During a 2015 debate about Germany's recognition of the Armenian Genocideon the occasion of its centenary, Steinmeier was the politician most reluctant to endorse it, mainly because of Germany's relations with Turkey.[128]He was widely criticized for his position and accused of Armenian Genocide denial.[129][130] When the German Bundestag almost unanimously approved a resolution in 2016 that recognises the killings of up to 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman forces as a genocide, a description that Turkey strongly rejects, Steinmeier abstained from the vote and criticized the resolution in public; Steinmeier was one of only two of the 630 members of parliament who did not support the resolution
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    Oops, those pesky facts getting in the way of Packard's denials again.
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    WWIII. Yeah, how did allowing a dictator to carve up and conquer territory work, last time? It's only "no conceivable earthly gain" when it's some other European country. However, I'm glad you know what I'm talking about.
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    If you think Putin is another Hitler and that history is as simple as saying Guy X did something vaguely resembling Guy Y, so we have an exact match and history will unfold in perfectly identical fashion, then I have news for you.

    First, you've already practically called me a lick-spittle running-dog lackey of Comintern simply because I'm not willing to join you in Black'n'White World.

    Second, believe it or not I don't think Putin is a nice guy who helps little old ladies across the street and deserves the Boy Scout badge for General Decency. He's a ruthless dictator and probably a war criminal.
    Do you honestly think any other sort of person could possibly run a place like Russia???

    However, believe it or not the world is full of leaders like that and they aren't all impersonating Adolf Hitler. You really have to free yourself of this kneejerk / tunnel-vision way of thinking.

    Like it or not, Putin is an extremely popular leader despite his country having a shitload of serious problems. The reason is that he's exactly in step with Russian Encirclement Paranoia. Which sorta comes from folks like our boy Adolf, Napoleon et al.
    And no matter how much you huff and puff, it ain't goin' away.

    Bush père promised Gorbachev that NATO wouldn't expand a single inch eastwards. Well ... Now it's right up on the Russian border and was actively courting Ukraine when the shit hit the fan.

    If you can't see the Military/Industrial Complex (Ike's term, not mine) at work, that ain't my problem.

    Yes, in a perfect world Vladimir would be rapped good and hard over the knucles for fomenting war in his neighbour's Russophile territory.

    But ---- Believe it or Nuts ---- siting missiles right on his borders (the equivalent of Russia siting missiles in Canada or Mexico) and parading up and down his border isn't going to impress Putin. It's only going to make things worse.

    Do you really want WWIII? Cuz I don't. It ain't worth it. There is NOTHING TO GAIN!
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    Ok, comrade, you sure told me. :lol:
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    No, no, no.

    I'm just calling YOU a fucking Nazi, because you keep posting stuff straight out of their playbook.
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    Still no quotes of my supposed racism? Not even a single example? How predictable yet still disappointing.
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    Nope. The Bundestag's original joint statement was one of appeasement. You're joining the story too late. But I see now that I misunderstood your own stance; given your racism, your pro-authoritarian and your pro-nationalistic rants, I assumed you were on the other side of the Armenian issue than I. But apparently you learned those historical facts sometime before you went over the edge.
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    Where did I say you said something racist?
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    You're laughing, but do think it through. You don't have to like Putin to see that, from a Russoparanoid standpoint, practically everything he does at a geostrategic level is defensive. Including the invasion of Crimea.

    Aurora makes an excellent point in post 17 here. (And both she and I live a lot closer to the bastards than you do.)

    Geopolitics isn't a tea party. I sincerely wish it were.