Stephen Hawking and the information paradox.

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Saw some documentary of his life last night.

    Only caught the end of it really.

    Damn, he's in rough shape, he ain't long for this world. :(

    But I think his mind is going too.

    His latest solution for the information paradox "that information can't escape a black hole, eh, I didn't see the whole documentary, so I didn't really get a handle on it", is,..get this...that merging all the possible parrallel universes, and seeing it all as a multiverse, information that's destroyed by the blackholes is preserved in all the universes where there are no black holes, and it all balances out.

    ....I come up with solutions like that in my philosophical musings! :marathon:

    This ain't science, it's science fiction bail-out technobabble!

    Ugh!

    The physics community seems to feel the same way.

    I mean, maybe he's right, but he's got no proofs.

    Higher dimensions sort it out?
    That's it?
    That's almost as bad as "God did it. Bible says. End of argument".

    Stevie, Stevie, Stevie. :no:
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    You never know. I have this cool theory about the universe:

    The Lego Theory

    Everything in the universe is absolutely neccessary, because it's like a box of Legos. Let's say a kid has a box of Legos and dumps it on the floor. This would be The Big Bang. He makes his little villages and shit, at the end of the day the Legos get taken apart and put back in the box. This would be the universe contracting.

    The next day, he begins building. No matter what he builds, they get taken apart and the cycle repeats. The kids parents aren't rolling in money, so no matter what he makes, he only has a limited amount of material.

    But let's say he loses a piece or two each day. Eventually there is not enough left to do shit with. This is why everything in the universe (energy/matter/God knows what) is essential.

    I think every time the universe contracts and then is created in a Big Bang, it will be a little different, while still containing the same amount of raw material.
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    Aurora VincerĂ²!

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    Yea, it's a theory. He'd never call it the absolute truth so I can't really see the problem :shrug:

    By the way, it does make sense if there's anything to Quantum Theory. Which makes complete sense to me.

    [cue Volpone with some non-committal jab]
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    Aurora VincerĂ²!

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    You know what? That's a pretty brilliant analogy that includes both Relativity and Thermodynamics :soma:
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    Welcome to Quantum Physics.
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    He made the initial mistake of ignoring the math in supergravity and the 5 variations of string theory. Once he took that into account, his dilemma solved itself.
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    He did some useful stuff in the seventies, but he's wasted the previous thirty years much the same way as Einstein wasted his brain from the age of 40 onwards. Mind you, your brain does start to turn to jelly at about 30....
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    Tis what happens in that business when you accept your own work as absolute truth.
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    Well, its no surprise he's rough, he was told he was supposed to die years ago.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Even earlier than that for me.....so I've got the jump on all of you!
    Who's laughing now? :unsure:
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    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Everyone talks about Hawking being remembered with Einstein, Schroedinger, and Dirac and those guys, but when all is said and done, I'm not sure that's how it's going to play out.

    The man is brilliant, but where is his everlasting contribution to physics? And rumor has it that he's a cunt to his peers, which is never good unless you personally are writing the history book on how great you were...
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    He's kind of like Carl Sagan, in that his real contribution is selling the science to the layperson.
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    :shrug: science is replete with cunts, from erwin hubble to edward teller, seems to be something of a prerequisite.

    given WF's density of cuntitude i'm hoping we'll get a combined nobel one day ;)
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    Er, Stephen Hawking is a cosmologist.

    Besides, there's quite a bit of quantum theory that has been absolutely proven by experiment. Entanglement for example.
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    WTF? How does he apply makeup with his body shaking so much?
    His customers must end up like Tammy Baker!
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    But he was born in Oxford :unsure:
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    Ricky Gervais just isn't funny :borg:
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    Hard not to sound like a matter-of-fact asshole when you have to use a robot voice to say everything :S