Stupid CPU questions

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  1. Aurora

    Aurora VincerĂ²!

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    Ah well, AMD has cut the price of the 6000+ by 50%. Will get one of those.
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    Buy me one* and i will let you kick me in the nuts every day for a year.












    *With the motherboard/Ram/Gfx card
  3. Powaqqatsi

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    Best CPU on the market for price/performance. Although I heard on the 24th, intel is going to follow suit and drop all their prices as well.
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    April 24th, really? That's one of the rumored release dates for 10.5....

    nah, probably a coincidence.

    It'd be nice if Apple had a simultaneous hardware price drop.
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    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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  6. Powaqqatsi

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    Well my source is just a post I saw somewhere by a user. So, who knows, could be false.
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    Mac OS X 10.5 "Leopard" ;)
  8. NeonMosfet

    NeonMosfet Probably a Dual

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    I have a duo core T2250. It seems to work fine.
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    Ewwwww
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    Yeah, I saw that today. Massively disappointed. :(

    At least they'll be seeding a "near-final beta" at WWDC. I'm getting tired of the crashes from last year's seed, awesome as the new dev tools are.
  12. Aurora

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    What does the iPhone have to do with a new OS X? Dude...

    Btw, does anybody know what the restrictions of running Windows in Intel Macs are? Talking Boot Camp, not Parallels. Will it use all the hardware? Will it be like on a PC or is it crappy? Because, like, that new 8 core Mac sure is expensive but then, it might actually hold for a few years. Also, could I upgrade it with new components like I would a PC? Windows should recognize them IMHO - or does it?
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    The iPhone reportedly runs a new, mobile version of OS X; for all intents and purposes, "iPhone OS X" instead of "Mac OS X". But the kernel and major core technologies are supposed to be the same.

    Second question: none; the Boot Camp DVD includes drivers for all the custom hardware. It'll run XP or Vista. And you can upgrade it, sort of; the RAM is expensive and while not proprietary, certainly workstation-grade, not desktop grade (it uses FB-DIMMS). The hard drives need to be mounted in sleds not sold separately AFAIK, but you can find them on eBay I imagine, and I THINK the Mac Pro comes with empty slides for whichever drive bays aren't full. I could be mistaken on that though. And there's only PCI-Express slots, no legacy PCI. But any PCI-e card should work fine under Windows. And as long as the socket stays the same and EFI has support for it, you can upgrade the processors as well; when the first samples of Clovertown came out, someone put them in a Woodcrest-based Mac Pro and they worked without trouble, in either OS.

    EDIT: the Mac Pro comes with the sleds, so you should be able to stick any SATA 3.0Gbps drive in there.
  14. Powaqqatsi

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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

    Already all sold out, looks like intel did drop prices, but earlier than the 24th.

    It's 4 dollars cheaper than AMD 6000+, and it's all around better.

    C2D mobos do cost more than 939 boards though.
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    Well, you shouldn't buy a 939 board anymore, only AM2. Because the next line of AMD processors will still work in current AM2 boards. :)

    You can also get dual core X2 3600+'s for around $72 now and are very overclockable, especially if you get the greener 65w version. Not a bad price, though the C2D 4400 Allendale is coming pretty far down in price.

    The C2D 4400 was around $140 last week, now back up to $165. The E6300 is at $176 and E6400 is at $196.
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    Yeh thats what I meant, AM2 is cheaper than 775 boards that support C2D.
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    Doesn't look sold out to me. :huh:
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    Wow, it was last night at about 3am EST, guess they just got another shipment.

    I'm really close to buying one (along with new mobo/ram/video card), but I want to make I get that job. I'm about 95% sure I've got it but don't want to go and spend 1000 bucks until I'm 100% sure.
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    I won't bother spending that much on a processor anymore. I'd rather wait until that one is down to around $130 (give or take a few dollars up or down) before I bother. I'd rather upgrade once a year for $300 or so, than every two for $800 or so.

    Just like the 8800GTS will be under $250 in the near future.. glad I waited 6 or so months for it, instead of spending $400 on it.

    The speed difference between say an E6300 and E6600 wouldn't be even noticeable to me.

    Just also noticed the E4300's are priced at $125, which is a killer deal. You can overclock those nicely with stock HS/Fan and not worry about stressing the processor at all. I'm not one for overclocking, but I would turn up the FSB for those.

    Heck, the E6320 is out now for $176 and it's got 4MB of cache.

    And yeah, the E6600 is out of stock if you look at the Intel CPU page and not just the processor's page itself.
  20. Powaqqatsi

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    The processor in question is $235. I'd never spend 800-1000 on a processor.
    I said I'm going to spend 1000 bucks on CPU, Video card (8800GTS), Mobo, and RAM combined. That's almost a whole new PC by itself. I might need a new PSU though too for that video card.

    It's already like $270 for a 320MB version, which is what I'd planned on getting. 640MB version would be nice for using AA at really high rez and what not but it's almost double the price.
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    No, I agree, it's not worth double the price. Though I think $270 is after rebates, which I always forget to send in. :( I still think my X1950Pro will get me by for a few more months until the prices come down even more. R600 is supposed to be released at the end of this month? Or is it next month. Oh and from what I've seen so far, consumers should stay away from the GeForce 8600's, as their performance is no better than the cheaper X1950 Radeon series. They cost more and the only real benefit is DX10 support. Might as well get an 8800 instead.

    I guess if you're going to spend that much already the addtional $62 for the E6600 over E6320 isn't all that much for the 500mhz more you're getting. Though, I think that is the only difference between the two chips. You could probably get a nice PSU for the price difference or a nice Zalman to OC quite a bit. In the end, both are great choices for cpu.

    I've bought all new parts for my next PC, except motherboard and processor. Well, video card too, but I'm still holding out.. I'm in no rush. But I broke my rule about spending $300 this year. A lot of standards have changed since I upgraded last. DDR -> DDR2, CPU Sockets for AMD and/or Intel, Power Requirements, HD Cache size, etc.

    So far I've bought:
    Seagate 320GB 16MB Cache HD $75 (on-sale)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140

    1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 800 $72 (on-sale)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134009
    (going to pick up another soon)

    NZXT Apollo Mid ATX Case $70 (always so hard for me to decide on a new case, but I want to use 120mm fans since they're so much quieter than 80mm fans which my last MidATX case had)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025

    Hiper 580W SLI Support, PCI-e, Sata, etc. PSU $90
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817128002

    I already have a 200GB 8MBcache WD IDE HD, a NEC 3500 DVD-RW and a Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1.

    Motherboards I'm looking at are:
    ASRock Intel 945P $81
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157096
    I know the slots are only DDR2 667, but I'm pretty sure you can scale back DDR2 800 memory.

    ABit IL9 Pro Intel 945P (1333mhz FSB) $85
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127015

    ABIT IB9 LGA 775 Intel P965 $95
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127018

    Asus SLI nForce570 $98
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131032

    Gigabyte Intel P965 $105
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128017

    and maybe

    MSI P6N nForce 650i SLI $114
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130082

    For processor:
    Intel Core2Duo E6320 $173
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115015

    The only reason I listed SLI motherboards, was just in case I ever wanted to put a 2nd VC in, I could.. but I doubt I ever would anymore. Considering how fast single card solutions are nowadays.

    My problem with Intel is that the boards are so damn expensive for a good one and not all that special.

    Therefore, I'm still considering AMD.

    GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 $77
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128034

    EPoX EP-MF4-J3 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 $65
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813123013

    BIOSTAR NF4UAM2G Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 $66
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138041

    DFI INFINITY NF ULTRAII-M2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 $80
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136015

    and for processor either:
    AMD64 X2 4000+ 2.1GHz 65nm $99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103774

    AMD 64 X2 4400+ 2.3GHz 65nm $115
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103776

    There is always the X2 3600+ 1.9GHz 65nm for $69
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103046

    Anyway you slice it, the motherboard + processor is about the same amount as the Intel CPU itself. It might not be quite as fast, but it'll be hard for me to even see the difference since mostly what I do with my PC is play WoW. You will also be able to use the next-gen AMD processors in AM2 motherboards as well.

    So, it's a tough decision for me, which way I want to go. :(
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