Supreme Court thread

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by gturner, Jun 22, 2015.

  1. tafkats

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    There's something pretty sadly ironic about invoking the civil rights movement in a battle against civil rights.
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  2. gturner

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    Black leaders have gone to great lengths about how the Civil Rights movement wasn't about sucking dicks.
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    Neither is this civil rights movement, as fellatio does not require marriage of any type.
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    Then why the fuck are they getting married?
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    Why does anyone get married?
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    Good point, since Obama in many ways represents a continuation of the centrist Clinton-Bush government. Why indeed is he bothered by a smart, successful black man? :mystery:
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    I do agree, he did not stand in the way. Neither will clinton. That is not leading, that is just getting out of the way and letting things happen. I guess with todays congress that might seem like leading. This is why I am not a democrat.
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    I don't understand all this talk about Civil Disobedience. How do you disobey this sort of thing?
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    The Shrieking Loon Brigade likes to imagine that Obama's stormtroopers are going to throw them in jail for not performing gay weddings.
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    Or for promoting "traditional marriage" on the radio.
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    perhaps by Scowling? Seriously, it would seem that the magistrates might not do their job marrying gay couples. So what, who wants a bigot judge at their wedding anyway. They will get whoever they want top perform the ceremony and the republicans can just imagine they are not married in the eyes of god. No one is going to force churches to marry gays, and if they do I will stand up for their right not to perform the ceremony. Really, I would protect the sanctity of their religion if that is what they want. Just have some way for another person to do it. If they do not want to go to a gay wedding then please don't. It is ok. I may think you a bit silly since gay people are often really great people. Still, if you do not want to then ok. Hope you have a good time doing your thing wherever you are.

    You know the right has tried really hard to set up a war with a community that really is very accepting and caring. I see a lot of the gay couples I know and they have jobs, they keep their house nice, they are considerate of their neighbors, they help out, they actually try to be a part of the community, they don't beat people up, they don't bring property values down, they appreciate their family because they had to fight for it. They do not take it for granted like many straight people do.
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    Wow, I was hoping glen's detachment from faux would make him more libertarian like, but no.
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    The remaining decisions were announced this morning.

    The use of alternative drugs for lethal injection is constitutional.

    The EPA must consider costs when making rules.

    Arizona's independent redistricting commission is constitutional.
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    Sounds like a little good news for conservatives. Though nothing that will make up for last week.
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    The decision is a lot worse than that. The Court decided that the EPA has to consider industry fantasies about costs designed purely as scare tactics with no basis in reality before announcing new rules, and actual known benefits of having new regulations must take a back seat. The fact is that at this point we have a long history of industry complaining about how terribly expensive it will be to comply with various environmental regulations, and the costs always end up being orders of magnitude less. The reason we don't have an acid rain problem today and that we can breathe our air unlike in China or Mexico City is because it was so fucking cheap and easy to take care of the problems despite all the end-is-nigh whining from power companies about how regulations would make doing business impossible. Industry claims of the costs to them of EPA regulations are always at least an order of magnitude on the high side in the long run, and the benefits of being able to breathe and not being under several feet of seawater are very clearly quite high. The cost claims by industry in this case are complete fantasies, and even if they weren't the benefits clearly outweigh the claimed costs.

    Basically, the Court said in this case that if you're homeless and win the lottery you are required to perform a detailed assessment of whether or not a house is haunted before you buy it.
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  21. gturner

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    Um, no. In general, cleaning up 90 percent of emissions or a spill is fairly easy. As you start scrubbing out 99 percent the costs rise much higher, and to get the last part per billion the costs explode to suck up your entire economy, and then you find out that what you are trying to clean up exists naturally in the environment at the ppb level anyway.
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    I suppose marrying a toaster could have positive tax consequences.
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    We're all half toaster, half human to begin with. :shrug:
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    Here's how I feel about the Supreme Court.
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    Yes, the five Justices who just ruled that it's not cruel to torture someone to death if you have no better way of killing them at hand certainly deserve some karmic justice.
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