Terrorists bomb moscow subway

All I have for now

Bombs at two locations, a few dozen dead.

Putin preparing to tighten his grip......

Why would they say "terrorism" like that?
I suspect Putin won't bother with formalities and announce their unfortunate "deaths" when caught.

But will they be given a trial in a civilian court??

Here's a little longer article:

And an even longer article (they're coming out pretty fast now):

Why bomb the Ruskies? I thought they had Iran in their back pocket.

Yeah, it'll likely be a Chechen group, and Putin will now retaliate by bombing someone down there.

I'd like to clone Putin and have his twin born in the US then fast tracked to the White House.

Someone beat me to the Chechen angle but this has some merit, too.

I know most Star Trek fans hate "Nemesis," but the film actually did an excellent job of exploring which factor affects behavior the most: genetics, upbringing or free choice. According to the conclusions it brings out, such a clone probably wouldn't act much like Putin.

I tend to agree with that conclusion. I have no doubt that genetics influences behavior, but I think it is probably the smallest of the three factors, in general. In some particular area of your life, it might be the big determinant, but in your general disposition, I don't think it plays as big a role as upbringing or free choice. Someone born and raised in the U.S. who has nothing in common with Putin but genetics would probably behave very differently.

Give him to me. I'll raise him for us.

One should note the implication in this discussion that a man raised in a totalitarian communist state, would be a more effective leader than had he been raised in a free capitalistic society.

....but they just want their own country back. Why aren't the left wing fruitcakes like henry blasting Russia and excusing this behavior like they do with the Pally's?

I have never excused suicide bombing in crowded civilian areas, you shitheap.

Have you lambasted Russia like you have Israel you fuckhead?

For their crimes in Chechnya? Consider them thoroughly lambasted. They've killed probably a hundred thousand people in their attempts to subjugate Chechnya and prevent its independence. These actions have been every bit as disgraceful as Israels attacks on Gaza or the US attack on Iraq, conducted under basically the same pretences, and using the same tactics, no less disgusting for having been largely successful as of this date.
The crimes of one side do not justify those of their opponents.

More terrorism, what else is new.

Mmmm.... Basted lamb....

Don't you mean a man caused disaster??

Dude.....give me a break....I was there. We attacked military targets.
99 percent of the things I saw destroyed were tanks, anti-aircraft guns, military vehicles, airfields, and so forth.

Unless the average civilian frequents these locations or uses said equipment, I've seen way worse attacks/land mine planting in Bosnia (for example).

I can show you the aftermath of an "attack" on the civilian populace...and this wasn't even close. Play this sad tune to someone else.

Perhaps terrorism should be looked at more from a social and political standpoint. terrorism as a political tactic would seem to fit here more. Often it is born out of oppression and has its origins in injustice, rarely throughout history has it been used without cause.

What's behind the bombings in Russia?

Terrorism is always a reactionary tactic, politically speaking; it always results in a hardening of imperialist resolve and serves to increase political reaction. How will Putin respond? Ceratinly the US will apply pressure under a democratic pretence, while Putin's natural inclination will be to tighten his grip. Certainly his response will show how nervous he is in relation to Western and domestic pressure on his authority.

B-but, teh military is teh evil, and only wants to kill everything in sight!

Your assessment is not at odds with my statement that the US attacked Iraq. However it is the case that the US attacks were indiscriminate. There are hundreds of thousands of people dead as a result of their actions, both directly and indirectly.

No, actually the US is pretty discriminate in its attacks, mostly because there are always a lot of armchair generals such as yourself just waiting for them to fuck up.

You know it! We skewer babies on our bayonets and grill them over burning puppies + kittens.

War isn't pretty, but I challenge any other nation to cause less collateral damage during major military operations. Of course I'm not counting nations that don't engage in major military operations.

And it continues:

I'm not taking sides here, but you and Rick are arguing on tangents to each other. You are saying that you take efforts to cause as little collateral damage as possible while accomplishing military objectives, which is true, however Rick is coming at things from the viewpoint that the collateral damage wouldn't exist at all if the invasion hadn't happened, which is also true.

Correction: the collateral damage caused by the US wouldn't exist at all if the invasion hadn't happened. Doesn't mean there wouldn't have been collateral damage there. Or just plain damage.