The birth strike movement has arrived!

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Marso, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    I dunno... I hope you're correct, but that whole "8times the population of 1890" combined with how we distribute ourselves... I think we'll be better off stabilizing sooner rather than later as despite having the space for another 4 billion people, the capacity to sustain them is frequently lost to development. We're losing farmable land (not too mention farms) at an alarming rate.
  2. Dayton Kitchens

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    It isn't just about the amount of "farmable" land. It is also about how productive that land is.
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  3. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    well that'd be the thing, eh?
    as the population within an hour drive of me increases, the amount of arable land is diminished.
    To say nothing of the slow march to extinction of the "family farm"...
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    I don't mean to diminish the "family farm" as I basically grew up on one.

    But strictly from a productivity standpoint what is the difference as to whether you get your food from 100 family farms or one big corporate farm?
  5. Spaceturkey

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    From productivity alone? Not much, I'd imagine.

    Of course, you're overlooking that the family farms aren't being replaced with "corporate" farms at all. The farmland is being lost entirely to suburban sprawl making us reliant on imports.
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    These women are stupid and I’m glad they’re not having kids.
  7. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    You have capitalism and big business to blame for that.

    We have all the tools to feed everyone on Earth right now, but in America, farms are ordered by the government to destroy what they don't sell or risk losing much needed subsidies.

    I imagine this won't change until a couple of CEOs get the Marie Antoinette treatment, however.
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  8. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Sounds to me like it’s more government’s fault.
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    That, too.

    I think that might change as houses in the North American markets are becoming more expensive and few young people are buying into the whole house = a necessary adult marker like my parents' generation did. Unless you're renting it out, it's a liability, not an asset.

    Plus, malls in general seem to be dying out as people prefer to shop online, so I doubt there are many new strip malls that will pop up any time soon.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    And who do you think lobbies for such aa government?
  11. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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  12. Spaceturkey

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    but the game works best when it has maximum participating players competing at comparable levels.
    why play monopoly if the banker is taking $2000 for passing go?
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  13. Steal Your Face

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    It’s the same as people who blame corporations for taking advantage of tax loopholes. They should be blaming congress for creating them and or not closing them.
  14. Spaceturkey

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    Not sure what you're disagreeing with in post #35 Dayton?
    The suburban sprawl around Toronto eliminating farmed land over the last few generations isn't too hard to document.

    Higher production capacity of "factory" farms is pointless if the consumer is now paying as much, if not more to transport the produce.
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  15. Spaceturkey

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    ummm... pretty sure they do blame congress critters and their roles as well.
  16. Spaceturkey

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    I mean, I know at least one of the reasons I voted against the current provincial governing party was that they'd open the "greenbelt" around the city to be even further developed than has already been permitted/tolerated.

    Likewise, I'm very much against their strategy of urban densification and civic administration amalgamations.
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  18. Minsc&Boo

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    Is marso a player hater?
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  19. RickDeckard

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    Given that what we're doing will cause the planet to be unlivable in a few generations (at most) this kind of reaction seems to me to be not entirely irrational. :(
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Alarmist nonsense. Even if the most severe (and highly unlikely) scenario occurs, Earth would hardly be unlivable. Life on planet Earth has survived far, far worse than what we're doing to it.
  21. Minsc&Boo

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    Where did tricia helfer touch paladin?
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    It gets more complicated than that as the corporations bribe politicians to create loopholes and Congressmen have created rules so that they can anonymously put these amendments into bills. How do you know who the corrupt one is who needs punishing when there is no record?

    This, of course, by design as the corrupt want to hide their corruption.