Stop being dumb. I voted for Obama in 2008 and refused to do it in 2012 because he stabbed everyone in the back by pre-emptively taking single payer off the table before they even started negotiating the health care bill. He also pre-emptively told the drug companies that he wouldn't do anything to contain drug prices. I had thought we had thrown a new FDR into office but instead we got warmed over porridge with a double dose of pandering to special interests.
Moron. Do you think he could have ever gotten single payer pushed through with all the republicans looking to be obstructionist assholes because he existed? The answer is no.. At best, we would have gotten the same shit we have now and at worst, the fight would've gotten dragged all the way into the midterm election when Dems lost the majority and no one would have had fucking anything. And we would have still been stuck with Trump who would have made the nothing we had even worse. If you truly believe Obama was going to be a savior, you're every bit as stupid as the Trump stans. Good thing we have a President in office who can't be bought. ....oh, wait.
I would have settled for him at least trying. He didn't even bother to do that. BTW what is that last remark? You know damn well I did not vote for Trump and, no, my voting for Jill Stein as a protest didn't hurt Hillary at all as I am in California. So it really was just a protest vote.
My point is that catering to special interest is just the price of playing politics to get some real change. Anyone who thinks there's such a thing as pure anything in the world that isn't baby animal videos is a Tumblr Justice Warrior or too stupid to live. Which is about the same damn thing these days, but all the fandom activity these days is concentrated there. Just the price of business. TLDR: stop thinking in black and white terms.
Regardless of how President Obama actually turned out, what ever gave you the idea that he was going to be a "new FDR"?
Oh God, I forgot about that one time he got spanked for posting literal fake news https://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/everyone-but-rightforge-knew-this-already.97145/ Tamar had the best response after he deleted his comments:
Apparently for the SJW crowd, someone being open minded and changing positions based upon evidence is anathema.
Being open-minded and changing positions based upon evidence is anathema to those who wish to maintain a societal status quo. I wonder if there's a word for those people?
As others have mentioned, there's changing ones mind and there's the sudden bizarre flip-flop that Dinner did after Charlie Hebdo. Regarding the specific link above, we've all gotten egg on our faces once or twice, but acknowledge we got fooled. Deleting the whole post was akin to Ben Affect trying to scuttle that the show that discovered his slave owning grand pappy.
I've heard Traditional Values or Culture Warriors... You can spot them by their Tiki torches and unbuttoned Fred Perrys.
Takes one to know one. For those who are just joining us: @Dinner used to call himself Confederate Son, mostly to troll another poster who is no longer with us. He called himself something else before that, but the personality remains the same. Perhaps we should use British parlance and refer to him as "Dog's Dinner": https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dog's dinner
Except Castle was claiming as a liberal I was "racist" against white people, numb nuts! Anyway, what is it with your constant searching through old threads to try to quote mine out of context? Volpone mentioned that sad habit of yours recently as well. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Join the YMCA or a Meetup.org group or something.
Half right is better than completely wrong for him. "sad habit" ? When have I dug up receipts on anyone else here, cumbucket? I do it because it's funny and also to bump it so @spot261 and @BizarroEnt can get caught up. Volpone didn't have a problem when Tamar was doing the same shit using people's emails from the admin site to dig up dirt, so can go back to sucking dick at the truck stop he came from to tell you. Suck on deez nutz
Bump thank you @Ancalagon for finding this one from 2015 And now, it's his go-to source to cissplain to Nova and Tererun and other queer people about transitioning. You'd think he'd be a bit for sympathetic, having spent years in the alt-right closet himself, having to play liberal to all his La Jolla country club buddies while wanting to glass all those Muslim animals. Oof