The Disney "hostile takeover". FAIL!!

Quoted over from the MCU-TV thread....

Well, the "hostile takeover" failed.
Bog Iger is still the boss.

The shareholders united like the good people of Tromaville at the end of Toxic Avenger.


Cry, CHUDs, cry.


https://comicbookmovie.com/disney/i...-attempt-to-get-board-seats-a210234#gs.6voukw

He's still got to find a way to stop losing money on shitty products.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say you’ve never watched one video from Midnight’s Edge.

*The limb breaks. FF becomes a gooey puddle of flesh and bone crumbs*

Yeah, Disney sure is bleeding money.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DIS/disney/gross-profit

Look into D+ subscriber numbers.

Then look at the profits for Dial of Destiny and The Marvels.

No, Disney isn't going bankrupt anytime soon, but shareholders with the "infinite growth" mentality expect better performance day to day.

Oh, good god.

Name one entertainment company that has a 100% track record. Every one of them has missteps that cost them money and yes, investors get pissy. This is nothing new whatsoever.

I thought Dial of Destiny's final act was stupid as hell, but so what. I don't hate on Disney because they've fucked up now and again. You're just buying into the narrative that the Youtube losers are trying to push.

If the complaints were "Disney could be doing better financially," that would be one thing. Probably still not justification to get rid of people or change a whole lot. But my understanding is the complaints were that Disney is wickety-wickety-woke/a dick-measuring and/or pissing contest between current management and past management.

Rationalize more. There is a very clear cause and effect to this shit.

...which is?

It is very inconvenient to keep shouting go woke and go broke and see Disney profits keep on coming in. Disney does not seem to need the money from the right wing as much as they need money from kids. Kids really do not care about made up culture wars about wokism as much as they care about being included, songs, and the products disney markets.

The right wing hate machine is not the market for Disney. Disney would lose so much money if they let Ben Shapiro and company eliminate the things that make kids happy. You guys have your Disney make believe fantasy market called the republican party. None of you are going to go to disney even if they catered to you because you simply do not watch cartoon fantasy. You watch talking heads. If they put OAN, Newsmax, Fox news, and Donald Trump in disney the kids would simply go elsewhere and you guys would not show up.

Money and customers have a variety of likes and dislikes. Not everything can be the same as UA and FF like and make money. Competition means if Disney tries to cater to the right wing haste machine someone else will come in and make products for all the people who want what Disney is making now. Stop hating capitalism and choice. Also, stop making uip lies that woke and inclusion causes death and destruction. It doesn't harm anyone, especially Disney who could use a shift to the left and some new character types like GLBT and POC.

What Disney films/shows have been "woke"? Or is this, like "extreme right-wing", a case of having its meaning shifted from "dangerous nutters" to "not my kind of people" to keep the denizens of life's reject buckets sated?

The only one I can think of that even orbits the concept is Strange World, which I've yet to see, so can't really comment on if it is actually "woke", rather than 'ZOMG, non-white or non-straight people!', or if I feel it's any good.

Curious if I've watched any, and, erm, if I've been brainwashed by the Illuminati/Hillary/Lizards/DavosMan into enjoying it...

okay...

I think in this case they are referring to inclusionism in the MCU and Star wars which are Disney properties now. There was also the black little mermaid remake.

It is not a lot, but Disney has been going very slow into inclusion (Aka woke) because of threats of boycotts by the radical religious right. every little bit of inclusion of a GLBT character or a POC is overblown liberal wokism. Disney was one of the last holdouts to the threats of the christian right family values people, and it seems they have chosen money and popularity over WASPwashing all of their work.

Look at how broke they have gone. 149 million subscribers. How is that Ben Shapiro family values streaming service doing? They seem to have made 3 million youtube subscribers, and they started a children's division. It is not nothing, but that is youtube subs. Their site seems to have just broken a million in 2023.

Disney better beware, it looks like they will be going broke any minute now.

That's kind of what I want to see, I have a lot of time for inclusivity so long as it isn't a box ticking exercise, I don't have much time for actual "woke" which is partially about subverting inclusivity into dogma by the Gordon Gecko's of social media credibility seekers.

If the list is something like the Little Mermaid remake, then I know it's just exclusionary bollocks. I mean, if the plot and acting is good, do we really give two shits about the skin colour of the mythical creature the film is about?

To be quite honest, "preachy" rep has been a lot more rare than it was when I was growing up now that we have more people of color writing from their own experience and thus making characters actually characters and not props to teach white people a Very Important Lesson.

The only thing in recent years that was in the "trying too hard" category was Velma, which was the first time since Pokemon Go that I've seen America culture so united on any given thing in media. The right hated it because Fred got bullied as a white boy and the left hated it for tokenism. It was great

Looks like a downward trend to me.

Identity politics at the expense of entertainment.

So show how "identity politics at the expense of entertainment" may have contributed to D+ going from 164.2 million subscribers in Q4 2022 to 149.6 million most recently, as opposed to any number of other potential causes, such as competition from rival streaming services, subscribers' personal finances, theaters opening up again post-pandemic, lower quality from D+ overall, etc. etc.

Did Disney not offer "identity politics at the expense of entertainment" from Q1 2020 when D+ only had 26.5 million subscribers to it getting to that high point in Q4 2022? Or was it that it offered the same level of "identity politics at the expense of entertainment" all along but there was some turning point in Q4 2022 that led people to no longer be willing to put up with it?

don't you see the "dip?" What more evidence do you need? Clearly they are doomed. All of those people are going to Ben Shapiro's non woke network. The ones that are not are just imaginary bots. No one is really out there watching Disney stuff anymore. They are just producing woke nonsense and forcing us to watch it to turn us all transgender black people. Obviously this is happening. It is not like certain people live in a low population area and are not avoided because they annoy other people or embarass them. @Uncle Albert does a lot of demographic research and talks to many people around the world. He knows much better than those disney execs who live in their california liberal bubble and never speak to anyone else or ever have polls, customer feedback, or test groups to see what people like. UA has spent his whole life examining the people around him so he knows.

Argument over because you cannot deal with that knowledge with your mind made up like that.

Silly, disingenuous pendant.

No, I can't plug in my DEI meter and correlate the readings with the decline in subscribers. Yes, the pandemic was a license to print money for streaming services, and yes that gravy train has ended. But the decline in the last year or so lines up pretty well with the garbage they've been shoving out recently, you must admit.

There's nothing disingenuous or pedantic about asking if someone has evidence to back up their claim, and there's nothing wrong with you admitting that you don't.

I don't think that the stuff that has come out on D+ in the last couple years has been significantly worse in general or diversity-wise than the stuff on it at launch, and I tend to doubt that is the source of the decline in subscriptions any more than various factors that I listed.

Looks like a plateau, at worst.

Slight dip from 2022 but you fuckers have been bitching about wokeness FAR longer than that.

In other words, you failed high school math.

cherry picked over 18 months, possibly.
over the entire 48 months, not so much.

but as is often the case, you know this and are just being intentionally (and obviously) dishonest.

Really dude, it's gotten so nobody expects honesty from you. The fun is simply showing where the lie is.

yet still somehow 150%-200% of what they were during the height of the pandemic...

How's Ben Shapiro's entertainment working out for ya? Any more Gina Carano flicks coming down the pipe?

Huh....Disney raised its prices for Disney+ and lost a bunch of subscribers. But it CERTAINLY wasn't the price hike that Economics 101 says might have caused those people to go away. Gotta be the Woke!

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/di...-down-price-hike-q1-2024-earnings-1235900093/

It's still about, the UK seems to be ticking quite a bit behind the rest of the world on moving on from it, and it's infected a few state level institutions. At times it's like Sokar's liberal try-hard twin decided to Beetlejuice up the place.

I've yet to see Velma, but that sounds like a response I can get behind!

Also the crackdown on password sharing. More than one thing can be true.