The Hillary Clinton Betting Pool

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  1. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

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    It's a two date parley, first, when will Hillary have her inevitable meltdown? This has to be in front of the cameras of course. But it doesn't matter if it's a at a speech, press conference or debate. It's one of those things that we will all know when it happens.

    Meltdown date: March 5th

    Second, when will her campaign officially end? When will she step down? (:lol:) Or be drug off the stage at the convention?

    The bell tolls for Hillary: August 27th



    Someone else can come up with the awards. We ought to be able to think up something better than rep.
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  2. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    I think that it's necessary for Obama to finish her off by winning either Texas or Ohio, and so far he's trailing in the polls in both states.

    Until Obama delivers the knockout punch, reports of the Hildebeast's death are greatly exaggerated.
  3. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    How long Clinton stays in the race barring a major turn around that actually gives her a delegate lead is almost entirely a function of finances. If she has any chance at all and has money to spend, she stays. If Obama wins Texas, Ohio, or Pennsylvania, the money will dry up quickly and Clinton will be gone in short order (Ides of March if she loses Texas or Ohio, May Day if she loses Pennsylvania). If Clinton sweeps those states and keeps the differential in pledged delegates at the statistical noise level where she can make her case to the superdelegates and they'll listen, then she should take in enough money to keep the campaign going until the convention.
  4. evenflow

    evenflow Lofty Administrator

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    I'm not seeing any dates here! :mad:
  5. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Hey, I gave you three of them! Perhaps that's too many. ;)
  6. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    "Ides of March" = March 15

    "May Day" = May 1
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  7. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    I'll take a shot at a Clinton meltdown before the March 4th contests--when the polls start showing that she is clearly going to lose one or both of the big states that day. (Which she will.) Of course, it depends on what you mean by "meltdown," too. But I'm guessing something worse than the crocodile tears she gave us when the polls showed her losing in New Hampshire.

    So I'll say March 2nd for the meltdown.

    As to the date of her withdrawing, I don't have any good guesses. Nostradamus I'm not.

    (And even less someone who was actually good at making meaningful, accurate predictions.)
  8. Clyde

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    I suspect it has already happened, a couple of times. Yet I doubt it will ever be recorded by cameras. So for the televised meltdown I'll say it won't happen, certainly not during this campaign.

    Her campaign will never end.
  9. Ramen

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    Meltdown on March 6th, when she realizes that Obama won't just give the nomination to her in exchange for allowing him to murshroom tat her forehead and post it on Youtube.

    So look for the video on March 7th.

    As for bowing out? Um, July 4th.

    Independence Day. :ramen:
  10. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Texas is an open primary (which in any state is a good thing, because as long as the two major parties have a stranglehold on American government, open primaries are the only way independents get any say in who the candidates that can actually win the election are before being presented with two names they had no hand in selecting come November), so anyone can vote in it. Independents have tended to vote for Obama over McCain this season in large numbers, and Texas Republicans, since McCain is essentially a done deal, can and will vote for Obama in large numbers to stop Hillary. That latter phenomneon isn't really reflected in polling. Plus, the system is a hybrid caucus as well.

    I'll be very surprised indeed if Hillary wins Texas. Actually, I'll be somewhat surprised if it isn't a margin of victory for Obama like we've been seeing since Super Tuesday.

    Hillary may or may not still win Ohio, but even if she does, it alone isn't enough.

    And Obama will probably carry the smaller states that day, Vermont and Rhode Island, by solid margins. Those are the two most liberal states in the US, even moreso than Massachusetts.
  11. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Ah, so Obama is the more appealing candidate because he's more of a centrist moderate than Clinton.

    No wait; it's because Obama is more liberal than Clinton.

    Or maybe it's just because people are drawn in by Obama's charisma and project all their hopes and dreams onto him, regardless of what he actually believes and actually will do in office. I'll say it again: I don't like Clinton, but Obama's supporters scare the bejeebus out of me with their willingness to believe that Obama will do six impossibly contradictory things before breakfast each day as President.
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  12. Ramen

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    I've heard, anecdotally of course, that many Republicans are of the mind that Hillary would be easier to defeat by McCain than Obama and may be voting for her.
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    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    No, it's because he simply isn't Hillary Clinton.

    Again, no. It's because he simply isn't Hillary Clinton.

    By George I think he's got it :soma:

    So...if you already knew what I was saying, why this post? :flow2:

    Picture a Venn diagram. Subset A is people who want a Democrat in the White House. Subset B is people who don't want the Clintons in the White House.

    Where those overlap is the huge subset group AB...the Obama supporter.

    "Want Democrat in White House" and "don't want Clintons in White House" are much more prevalent than any other issue driven reasoning.

    Hence you have the current situation. Your dislike of it doesn't exactly have me :weep:

    Like that Whitney Houston song goes...It's not right, but it's okay :soma:
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    Yes. And if Hillary stays in the race that keeps the Democrats fighting amongst themselves instead of against McCain. AND if they keep the Dems fighting amongst themselves, it increases the chances that people will be disgusted by the mudslinging OR something really juicy will come to light that they can capitalize on during the actual election. :cylon:
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    I was just sitting out in the garage thinking how easily Liet dismissed his citizenship in the US in another thread and realized without question that I am actually backing Hillary in this race.
    :soma:

    I don't know this man named Obama from Adam, and I find it worrisome that his eloquence has such a large section of the population swayed with fancy bobbles and shiny things without substance. I am concerned that his wife is not really fitting for the First Lady position. That's a pretty damned important position to me and for all the crap Hillary has pulled she was ten times the first lady that I believe Michelle will ever be.

    That said, I vote they'll pull her kicking and screaming. I can't see her admitting defeat unless she's lambasted across the chops with it.

    Unless of course Bill keeps inserting himself into the fracus as poorly as he's managed lately. :lol:

    Perhaps part of her anxiety is Bills "help". :lol:
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  16. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    I forsee Hillary's meltdown happening at or right after the Democratic Convention, which is probaly going to be one ugly barfight of a deal. Hillary will lose the nomination and got completely batshit. Hopefully this will happen in front of cameras and microphones.

    In the interests of full disclosure, let me say that up until recently I thought Hillary had a mortal lock on the nomination. Obamamania is a force beyond all reckoning, t'would seem.
  17. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    On January 20th while McCain or Obama are entering office Hillary will be arrested after ramming her car through the White House gates, yelling how she belongs there.
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  18. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    It's nice to see that Hillary's instability is globally renowned :soma:
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  19. evenflow

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    One problem with that scenario. Prove Hillary Clinton has driven a car in the last twenty years. :marathon:
  20. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    She has spent several years in the passenger seat of a car, that "co-driver" experience makes her perfectly placed to actually drive doesn't it?
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  21. evenflow

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    You just summed up her entire campaign message! :soma:
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  22. Darkening

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    Before the anonymous Ides of March protest when there will be a leak to the media about them and CoS.

    So i'm saying march 11-12
  23. Order2Chaos

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    The first debate after March 4, and at the convention, respectively.