The Imaginary: Nations, Culture, and a Common Destiny

Businesses exist to employ people, didn't you know that?

Responsibility != best interest. The responsibility of a business is to turn a profit, whatever that entails. If that means catering to Sainty, then great. If it means hiring people who only speak Swahili to staff a restaurant, then that's great, too. Vote with your wallet, idiot.

How is hiring staff who can't communicate with your customers in any meaningful sense going to help a business?

If it doesn't, the business will suffer. The market tends to be self-correcting like that.

The people of Arizona are doing better than that -- they voted with votes, and now the illegal employees and the illegal customers both are getting the big adios.

How exactly are you a libertarian, again?

By insisting on a solid civil defense? Let Skin puzzle that over for awhile while you fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

Well, Saint, supporting the state's coercion of private businesses would seem to indicate that you are not, as you claim, a libertarian. Carolvs noted that you "liked" the Libertarian Party on Facebook. Whose stance do you think they agree with?

Wouldn't mind seeing some evidence for this claim.

Wouldn't mind seeing some evidence for this claim.

In California, we've a diverse population, folks from all over everywhere move here, legally and otherwise, bringing their culture, including their language, with them. And as appealing as a universal translation for every public document may be, that's a task better served (and not taxpayer funded) by internet translation sites.

Been to the DMV recently? They have like 30 languages.

Run public documents through Google Translate.

Exactly whom are you addressing? You're quoting Skin but using someone else's name. Are you a paranoid schizophrenic as well as a pathological liar?

Skin isn't on Facebook, Cupcake.

Depends on which one you ask, apparently.

http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/04/09/20/1423219.shtml

So you see, Skin is indeed a Libertarian, and you can eat a bowl of dicks.

That isn't evidence that translations are being used by a significant number of people.

Exactly. Translation sites are usually free and cover a wide variety of languages. There is no need for the government to try and compete.

Yeah, that was my point. I wouldn't have any issues with eliminating the languages nobody actually uses, but Spanish is definitely not one of those.

Problem solved.

Sometimes I wish liberals would get exactly what they want. Let them get a helping handful of the world as they think it should be, then see how long it lasts. I'll watch from the derigible I plan to build when that kind of hell breaks loose.

Yeah, and that dirty hippie Jesus was the worst of 'em.

You really just exist to make self-serving little "check me out" comments, don't you? :lookatme:

Can you pinpoint the exact moment you became a useless prick, or did you just sort of slip into it like a Parkinson's patient in a bathtub?

So, is Jesus giving that post a thumbs up, or not?
I can't see him, being a hethen n' all....

I just never pictured him as the type to chortle at Parkinson's patient jokes is all.
Guess all those "Superbook", and "Flying House", cartoons I saw as a kid where Jesus was a snuggly friendly teddy bear of a guy lied to me, eh?

I mean, you would know.

You can smack him on the back of the head all you want; it's not going to sink it. You're gonna have to smack him the back of the face for it to count

If you reread that quote of yours, he is against illegal immigration, but not on the grounds that "people no longer get your order right in restaurants". In fact I'm pretty sure every serious Libertarian defends a restaurant owner's right to employ whomever he wants. If he wants his waiters to communicate in a fanstay language made up entirely of different combinations of the words "oompha", "nbrft", "yuriii" and "popo", so be it. He has no obligation to make you happy, and you have no obligation to do business with him.

Pardon me?

Give the exchange another read.

It takes a whole new brand of stupid to judge a man's character by the actions of other people, thousands of years later.

Oh, so you're just an asshole. Okay then.

He has a vested interest in making his customers happy so that they will do business with him. And Skin may not have any obligation to do business with him, but when all of his competitors likewise employ illegal labor who has no English fluency, Skin has no choice. "No choice" is not a Libertarian ideal. So you can grab a fork and join Cupcake in mowing down on that bowl of dicks.

By Jove, you're a fucking retard. It's disgraceful that authoritarian statists like you call yourself libertarians.

Tough shit. If enough people think like skin, they'll make opening good-english-only restaurants a worthwile venture. Until then, there's nothing in the constitution that says "everybody is entitled to restaurants that do as he pleases".

I'm not a Libertarian, but in contrast to you I have understood the concept.

Something I find really funny is that he actually went on my Facebook and accused me of not being a real libertarian and only identifying as such to "look cool." Evidently, that's precisely what he's done.

Wow. I'm impressed.

Wasn't this guy kind of a funny or at least well known troll at some point in the past? I thought I remembered something, but I'm not so sure anymore.