The Omnibus AI Thread

"What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything?"

Nah, the nerds who wrote the software already have that answer plugged in, so it’ll spit out “42” a femtosecond after you type it in.

True.

MIT students are making AI more environmental friendly

Sorry I am a bit l;ate to the convo, but if a person read @steve2^4 's post rather than only read 144 characters because they only can process tweet level input, they might have noted he was speaking of water usage and not all energy and resources. He clearly noted the carbon footprint, which would be more related to energy and resources, was a problem. Also, the article noted an underwater facility, which would not have wasted any water through evaporation, was able to operate at efficiency.

Liquid cooled systems are not meant to evaporate the liquid. Think of a car engine liquid cooled system. If your coolant is getting low then that means the system has a leak and has a problem. Water cooling systems in a state changing evaporation system would be very wasteful and primative. They would produce vapor waste, and would certainly be improved through other methods of thermal exhaust. The article itself really does not state how they calculate waste water at all. The only process I know of that would have to use up water would be electricity generation and not cooling systems.

Thinking about it, if the water was heated to the point of a change of state producing steam one could use a turbine to recapture the lost heat energy and convert it back into steam. I do not know the heating caused by AI generation, but that would be a way to recycle the steam if the processors were heating it to the point where it was evaporating water in huge amounts like that.

My thought would be the microprocessors would need insane levels of heat dissipation to operate at such levels. I would think the space required to allow for the convection of heat away from the core of processors would be so vast that you would have to separate the processors of the core enough that they would not generate enough heat to flash evaporate the quantity of water running over the heat sinks. In other words if you had the core processors that close you needed to evaporate water to properly cool them you would have the materials in the processor melt with just water cooling and would need a different form of refrigerant system. In this case the water would cool the refrigerant coils and would not be need tro be evaporated at such high levels unless you were reclaiming the energy through steam turbines and made it to work like that.

I think steve is correct that the article does not go into the proper level of explanative detail and I do not have confidence in their conclusion of what constitutes "waste" water or how it is wasted. I would love a better explanation of the whole process myself as the article is written for the basic high school level student who doesn't bother with actual physics.

I still do not get what they mean by "used." If you are talking about pumping water into a cooling tower that was heated to a certain level and then dumped back onto the soil to be cooled and absorbed into the water system as a non-chemically polluted water system then as long as you were dumping the water back into the earth or river where it is not heating up a standing body of water which would cause environmental problems with decay and bacterial growth that should not be a major problem.

If they are losing the amount of water to evaporation based on those computing times that is an insane amount of heat energy output for AI. So much so that yes of course we should be freaking the fuck out if 20-50 questions changes 60 ounces of room temp water to water vapor. I do not know what waste means in this case as it is not defined.

Sure, maybe they are just taking the water and running it over the heat sinks and then dumping it. That is not evaporation, even though that would evaporate a percentage of that water. Most of the water would be heading back into the ground to eventually meet the water table or wherever it went from there. You could take the warm water and pump it over crops or flush a toilet with it, or do many methods of other use with it. Yes, they should do as much as they can to reclaim the lost heat energy and keep the water within the clean water system, but even evaporated water is eventually going to fall as rain. As long as they are not chemically treating the water with a pollutant, if it evaporates it will come back down. When you consider evaporation even the amount of 60 oz for that many questions is not huge compared to how much water vapor is put into the air.

The interesting thing about water vapor is you could measure the dewpoint in the surrounding area and get an idea of the dissipation and water entering the atmosphere if this thing was generating that much water evaporation.

The amount of energy required to take a liquid to a gas is amazing. I really doubt chatGPT is generating that much water vapor and what they refer to as waste water has to be something outside of evaporation.

Link to some sample audio:

https://stability.ai/research/stable-audio-efficient-timing-latent-diffusion

Yeah it's evaporative cooling in areas where the humidity is low. Those tend to be desert.

The water is used and not recycled, unless you count coming down as rain in Des Moines.

I don't think it's a big problem. Watering lawns in Phoenix is a bigger problem.

In the east they're more likely to use refrigeration.

Distribution is a consideration, they don't want to pay for backbone traffic so they center around big cities.

Maybe we shouldn't build cities in deserts.

AI reads text from ancient Herculaneum scroll for the first time

That's ridiculous.

Look at that thing. It's not a scroll any longer, it's a wad of charcoal.

Yeah, really not sure how I feel about this.

Google’s AI-powered search experience can now generate images

Wall Street Watchdog Says AI Will Cause 'Unavoidable' Economic Collapse

Headline is misleading and if that were the only issue, a good data analyst … or rather several good data analysts would be able to prevent such things and especially knowing its inevitability, they’d be able to avoid it. The economy will collapse (I’m thinking this society in which we currently live won’t last another 50 years), but not because of AI.

The AI-Generated Child Abuse Nightmare Is Here

This opens up a can of worms for sure.

Jesus fucking Christ, what is wrong with some people

https://x.com/jason_koebler/status/1719022065381216311?s=46&t=iYW3foyqIA6Tn8VWwn3nwQ

https://nypost.com/2023/11/01/news/...sible-increased-joe-bidens-concerns-about-ai/

https://x.com/dreamosaurus/status/1720738027415503267?s=46&t=iYW3foyqIA6Tn8VWwn3nwQ

One of my students asked if anyone had ever told me I look like Andreessen this week.

She has a heart condition so I'm just gonna let nature decide what should become of her.

It’s okay, Facebook’s facial recognition system thinks I’m Nigel Firage. (I look nothing like that prick.)

https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/11/01/israel-gaza-adobe-artificial-intelligence-images-fake-news/

Google Sues Hackers Exploiting AI Hype With Alleged Bard Scams

https://bsky.app/profile/mystikos.org/post/3ke4pplrgi22d

Does AI help solve problems? Scientists at Hong Kong Laureate Forum say no

I dunno, I got ChatGPT to give me some R scripts yesterday to help my students analyse their data (I'd just use Excel, but we've been told to embed R into our 1st year undergrad teaching). And easier to follow than listening to the crap guidance we're getting from the department.

Let me embed R for you. It's my specialty.

Based on some Rule34 art i would say a lot...

YouTube Now Sells the AI Soul of Your Favorite Musician

https://www.404media.co/users-cant-speak-to-viral-ai-girlfriend-carynai-because-ceo-is-in-jail/