The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

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  1. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Trump signed a law making it a felony. Trump committed a felony, Clinton committed a misdemeanor. Who says so? The Republican GOP and Trump himself.
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  2. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    So you respond to an accusation of lies about George Soros with lies about George Soros? Saying his mother was ashamed of being Jewish doesn't make him a Nazi collaborator. That particular lie came from right wing nut Lyndon Larouche.

    I'll say this for you, you are consistent.
  3. Steal Your Face

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    I don't think they were Nazi collaborators, that would be the author, but Reuters wasn't exactly being honest with their fact check either. One could interpret confiscating property from Jews as collaborating. I'd call it doing their dirty work in order to survive.
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    At least you admit that she did commit a crime, some people won't even admit that much. It carried a ten year sentence though. It still doesn't change the part you quoted, both are bad. They are not equally bad.
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  5. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Honestly, she shouldn't have been prosecuted, and it wasn't a crime at the time. For one, it occurred when she was Sec of State, and Sec of State has classification authority. Two, they weren't documents that were classified when she stored them, they were retroactively found that they should have been classified by other agencies. Three, the previous SoS, Colin Powell, used similar practice. Four, there was no indication of criminal intent, and as these weren't felonies (then) that was the boundary for prosecution.

    The FBI and DOJ both concurred in 2016 she shouldn't be prosecuted. The DOJ in 2018 investigated again and came to the same conclusion. That was Trump's DOJ.

    What's more, Trump is no longer a government employee with any level of classification authority, he took the physical documents and that could include cover ups, he had his lawyers lie and say he had returned all the documents, and he can't even say what documents he has - or won't. And it's apparent from all the empty classified documents folders that he has not returned all the documents.

    PLUS he changed the law to make every instance of this a felony, and violated the espionage act when he wouldn't return items.

    This is not anywhere near the same thing.
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  6. Jenee

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    Hillary Clinton used a public server to send emails. Donald Trump intentionally took files that need a very high level security clearance to see. How exactly are the two the same?
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  7. Steal Your Face

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    I didn’t say they were the same.
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    I didn’t say they were the same thing.
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    You sure tried mighty hard to imply it.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Wow, such a compelling case is made in those links. I spent the time to read them both (the New Yorker one was a long slog) and the evidence presented totals:
    • While living under Nazis in WW2, the Soros family adopted fake identities to avoid being murdered.
    • Soros doesn't think a default Jewish ethnostate is a good idea, and doesnt want to be part of one.
    • Once when dealing with Russia decades ago, he told his staff to limit the number of Jewish people in a contingent to no more than 1/3 of the group's total because he felt going in with a majority Jewish group would result in a negative response from the Russian officials he was trying to deal with.
    Of course, lack of evidence doesn't mean the allegations aren't true, but it does suggest that once fucking again you're just spamming links to material without having bothered to even read it yourself.
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    In his defense FF seems to be functionally illiterate. It is clear he has the capability of reading at times, but at other times he clearly cannot comprehend what he is referencing. This does seem to be some sort of republican/libertarian psychological malady.
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    Pointing out that eating french fries vs. eating french fries with chili and cheese are unhealthy choices does not mean that both are equally unhealthy. Either way, you're still eating french fries. Both are still unhealthy choices.
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    Fine. You aren't saying they're the same thing.

    Can you then say that having Hillary Clinton president would have been better than donald trump?
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    Of course not. :discuss:
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    I mean... four months without alcohol and drugs and whatever else is keeping Bannon alive instead of a soul? It's gonna be rough.
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  20. Steal Your Face

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    This is the 2020s, not late 1940s...
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  22. Steal Your Face

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    No I can't say that because I'm not Dr. Strange.
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    Your shameful attempt at humor (shameful not because of the subject, rather egregious lack of humor) notwithstanding, please take a moment and actually think about what has happened in the last 6 years and tell us truthfully that you think trump was better than Clinton.
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