http://transadvocate.com/the-handmaids-tale-isnt-as-fictional-as-you-thought_n_20487.htm Shit runs deeper than almost anyone realizes, particularly the "normal" Republicans and conservatives who provide unwitting cover for the fifth column.
Well, you may be able to force the glbt community back into hiding and force abortion into the back alley, but they will always exist because nature. There will always be people who enjoy gay sex and relationships. There will always be trans people even if you eliminate gender. There will always b people who would rather risk a dangerous abortion than lose their life for eighteen or more years raising a child who will hate them despite their sacrifice.
Agreed. Usually outgrown by the time the kid is 20-something. But those who know they were "an accident" have a harder time dealing with it.
Why would you ever tell a child they were "an accident" anyway? IIRC of all pregnancies carried to term, something like 50% are unplanned anyway.
I've known it to happen. Sometimes if there's a big enough gap between siblings, the kid figures it out for himself. IMO, if the "don't kill your baby!!!!1!" crowd were serious, they'd work toward more effective contraception and education. But too many of them believe every sperm is sacred, and the rest are more interested in their 15 minutes of fame.
I don't know a single pro life person who believes that aside from the occasional Catholic nutter who doesn't believe in birth control
So you're dismissing facts, evidence, and the statements of the people promulgating this nonsense. Okay.
Not so hard when you realize that most can not do the math. I used to work a job in which I had to use Algebra every day. These can not. They are technologically extinct.
actually some of the eps of THT specifically deal with the hypocrisy of the theocrats and that "it still goes on"
No, not really. If you pick some random legislator you may or may not get clean agreement on every point, however a LOT of them believe things as fact that derive directly from that theology, even if they don't put it in a theological context, and essentially all of them with any power owe their office and their future to Dominionist political actors from the theocrat right. There are plenty of districts in this country, whole states even, that - in a normal year, Trump effect notwithstanding, can't be won by someone who's at odds with FRC (for one example). Governors from maybe half the states, the great majority of GOP state legislators and statewide office holders, and a goodly portion of those in Congress (including the one who got shot the other day) bow the knee to that crowd. Tale Texas for example - does Dan Patrick sincerely believe that bullshit? Maybe, maybe not (my money is on "oh HELL yeah!") - but he knows his political future is intimately intertwined with advancing that agenda
Abortion illegal in essentially all cases? Yup. There are some who are shaky about terminating an eptopic pregnancy. "Traditional" marriage and legal license to discriminate openly against anyone who's sexual behavior you disapprove of? Yup. Church empowered to serve as PACS? Ditto. "Morality" (theirs) enforced by government acts. Submission of women to men. Superiority of white christianized culture in all things Actual legal bans against homosexual acts, and transgender transition. All these and more enjoy wide support among core Republicans. That's before you get into the nefarious blend of racism and evangelicalism. The current "Religious Right" (which, along with Koch-style economic interests own the agenda of the GOP) was born directly out of the caldron of folks who were pissed off about desegregation, and abortion was simply the tool they used to manipulate the gullible masses into following them.
People such as these worry me a LOT more than the Scharia nuts. We all agree that nobody likes the suicide bomber. But those? They have a fan base reaching deep into the sane mainstream.
They do not sound like nice people but I question the source as that article is obviously a hit piece. I mean the claims of racism are obviously false. The quote used was: "the greatest threat to the African American community is the sin of African Americans.” I assume this out of context quote (which is obviously from a Christian perspective) was referring to the same stuff you hear over and over from the religious right (I.E. sex outside of marriage, unmarried mothers, absentee fathers, etc...). I would no doubt have many bones to pick with these people as I do with all the religious right but the claims of supposed racism are utter weak sauce at best if not outright lies and defimation. Such lies and defimation put all the other claims made in that article open to question.
So, with it looking increasingly like Roe is going to fall in the very near future, how do folks feel about this?
I have always said that the supreme court was a great way to start the process, but legislation is the goal.
It ain't just about Roe. it's ultimately about Griswald and a world of hurt flows from any loss there
