Things George W. Bush is guilty of causing...

Besides you calling your sorry liberal self a moderate?

Yeah, and Bush is going to join Mensa, right after he gets the Nobel Peace Prize.

Not at all.

I'm very Conservative or very Liberal depending on the issue. Unfortunately, the Rep party has that "if you're not with us, you're against us" attitude nowadays, which is one of many reasons I broke from them years ago when I saw the writing on the wall.

Read my posts. VERY pro death penalty, anti big gub'mint, pro slap down for violent criminals, anti welfare. At the same time, I support legalizing some drugs, very pro-choice, etc.

The shift towards neo-conservatism 30 years ago is what drove people like me away from the Reps. The shift towards ultra-liberalism is why the Dems won't have people like me.

I'm a man without a political party and I like it that way.

Take the little blue pill, Bear.

Sounds a lot like a conservative to me.

I think your political spectrum is screwed up.

Perhaps a TRUE conservative. We haven't seen any of that since the early 1960's. Definitely not a Neo-Con.

I basically want gub'mint to do its job right and stop fucking up people's lives.

I think you'll find that a lot of us around here are like that.

Bush, McCain....in the fact 95% of the Republican party aren't true conservatives.

And we don't 'exactly' support them, unless you have a problem with supporting the lessor of two evils. Sure, in theory it is a problem, but in reality you don't really have a choice.

I don't support them either. Nor do I support current crop of Dems. As I've said many times, I'm all for banning political parties and forcing candidates to run on their merits. That may not work either because the potential candidates who have true merits don't want to deal with the shitstorm politics has degenerated into.

The problem is that those folks on the extreme right and the extreme left see those statements as diametrically opposed to one another.

I just want to be left alone.

All I have to say is that phil is a retard.

Carry on.

LOL! I spend maybe 8=10 minutes on here, during the working hours of my average week. Shit, I probably spend more time in the can than I do at WF. So precious, precious little of the NIH's hard-won grant money is wasted on WF, I assure you.

TBH there's not a whole lot of discussion on this board, lately, that catches my interest. Certainly none of it is more interesting than my work and doesn't really tempt me to kill hours online during my workday. Christ, check my postcount before you say shit like that.

That said, I may disagree with K1A or BearTM or Demiurge, but at least we're having an intelligent argument.

So why don't you try, instead, to contribute to the discussion with some sort of thought instead of taking random pot-shots at my work ethic?

If you had a work ethic and some talent, we'd have an HIV vaccine by now.

^ Well, so much for the intelligent argument.

I'm pretty sure your kidding, here. But my sarcasm-meter is on the fritz, so I can't be too certain.

Everyone's is. Sarcasm is dead, dead, dead. Political discourse these days is so monumentally absurd that 90% or more of the time the only difference between sarcasm and seriousness is whether you agree with the speaker.

Yup. And I'd buy that if you didn't have your tongue so far up Bill Clinton's asshole that you can taste the french fries he had for lunch today.

Like Fred Thompson.

I agree with you.

STFU Volpone.

Bill Clinton wouldn't stick a cigar up your ass and you've been whining like a bitch ever since.

Thompson disappointed me greatly. God knows I didn't agree with him on everything, but he was a candidate that I could have supported and voted for. Unfortunately, he fell asleep at the switch and let the momentum get away from him.

Now we're left with nothing but a fucking mess for the 2008 election.

To me it seemed like he wanted to serve the people, but didn't want to go through the whole screwed up vote pandering routine to get elected.

He wasn't set up for a presidential run to begin with. Mehlman talked him into running as a trial balloon for a VP slot.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis

How so?

By definition a lot of the things he supports and stands for are conservative by nature.

So do I. So do many people, but it doesn't make them conservative in the sense that they'd align themselves with the Republican party. Nor do I align myself as a Democrat just because I'm pro-choice, want more funding in schools, or for gay rights to marriage.

If that's the black-and-white view you have on the world, so be it, but I refuse to be a drooling parrot for either side.

If everyone could latch on to their one libertarian issue and give everyone else the benefit of the doubt on theirs, things might change.

As it is, it's totally opposite, everyone holds their nanny state issue close to their heart, and uses it to regulate the lives of others.

Some of my political beliefs are very conservative. Some are very liberal. I refuse to be pigeon-holed into one party or the other. I don't need the RNC or the DNC to do my thinking for me. I'll listen to the facts and make the best decision I can.

I might make the wrong decision, but at least it's my own.

My shitty DSL service with Verizon.

Your hatred of Walmart marks you as a raving Liberal lunatic.

Same here. I support the death penalty because a capitol murderer is an animal that doesn't deserve to live.

I support abortion rights because I think it's a private decision that's best left to the people directly involved, not some congressman who's probably porking his secretary.

I'm anti-welfare to a great degree because I think it has made it too easy to be a slacker and live off of those who pull their weight in society. I'm pro-welfare for a program that helps people who are down get back on their feet and then kicks them off, or kicks them off if they don't try to get up.

I'm for legalizing certain drugs because I don't think it's the government's business what you do as long as you do not harm, or are no potential harm to, anyone else.

I'm pro-education. I'm also for kicking out the disruptive little bastards in class.

I do support gay rights because all people are created equal and you can't legislate sexual orientation. Gay and lesbian couples should be entitled to the same rights and protections as straight couples.

I'm opposed to hate crime laws because I believe that no one group is more entitled to protection under the law than another. Murder is murder, assault is assault. Those who commit these crimes should be prosecuted for murder, assault, etc. to the greatest extent of the law. You murder, steal, rape, harm a child, etc., your ass is going to the big house.

I'm opposed to the current tax code because it's unequal and a royal clusterfuck. If you make $10,000, you should be taxed x%. If you make 10,000,000, you should be taxed x%. Nobody gets a break. Fair across the board.

If a law is proposed in Congress, the industry affected should have no more lobbying power than an individual citizen.

Call it what you will.

Yeah, except where did I ever say he should align himself with the Republican party?

The Reps won't have me. I like to think of myself as a Jeffersonian Democrat. Definitely not a Federalist. I'd return a lot of stuff to state sovereignty.