Trump confirms he's no bigot

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  1. Steal Your Face

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  2. gul

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    Let's see, three counterpoints to your statement:

    1. Nobody paid enough attention to notice. But his words are now there, exposed for anybody to review. He's clearly a racist.
    2. Nobody (well mostly nobody) called Bush a racist. Nobody called McCain or Romney racists. Nobody called most of the 2016 field racists. Trump has indeed tarnished the Republican brand, but generally speaking, if somebody isn't a racist, most won't claim that they are. Despite the claims of simpletons like you and Ramen, when we call him a racist, it's because he is one.
    3. You're an idiot.
    I think that about covers it.
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Lots of people called Bush and Romney a racist.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Nobody I knew said that about either, and it wasn't something widely suggested by the chattering class. I said almost nobody, because there's always somebody. But whatever you heard said about Romney (and I strongly disagree with anybody who says he is a racist), surely you recognize a vast difference with what people say about Trump. That should mean something.
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  5. Dayton Kitchens

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    I don't see being a "birthed" as inherently racist.

    Stupid but not racist
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    Huffpo: McCain's racist surge
    Huffpo: McCain's racism and why it matters
    Capitol Hill Blue: McCain: Racist, Bigot, & Homophobe
    ABC: John McCain's takes fire for racist tweets
    Fox: MSNBC smears John McCain as racist
    Politico: John McCain will be accused of racism regardless

    Yes he will.

    Should I cover Bush and Romney too, or do you just want to get back in touch with reality on your own?

    If the Republicans ran Pope Francis, Democrats would denounce him 24/7 as a racist, a bigot, a misogynist, a homophobe, and a war monger.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Trump has been a dog whistle racist for decades. People do not call them out on their racism until they shoot for high end public office. There are a lot of rich white guys who are racist, but they do not make racist statements in general public. They are in their rich bubble, and no one really bothers to call them on it despite it clearly having a social and economic effect.

    Trump is now going for the presidency and he also has started spouting racist shit in public much more often. Sorry, but he dug his own hole there. Look at Bush Jr. There are a lot of things you can say about him, but he was not racist. Trump has let his racist ideas spill out of his mouth, and that cannot be blamed on liberals. You are an idiot for thinking liberals made trump a racist.
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    It is racist whites n you have never gotten so uppity about proving it with any other president or candidate for president. Where the hell were all the birthers fighting against Ted Cruz? It is not racist to demand proof of birth. It is racist to only demand it of the black guy.
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    And Minnesota elected Jesse Ventura before that.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    To be honest, Trump almost certainly didn't deny blacks and other minorities the opportunity to rent units in buildings he owned out of ideological hatred. He would have just considered it good business sense. It was still racist, but not maliciously so.

    His presidential campaign, however, has been driven by cynical pandering to racists. With that vote firmly in hand,
    he has lately taken to cynically pandering to black audiences. He certainly counts out-and-proud racists as his most vocal and enthusiastic supporters.
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    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    But then there's this:

    :lol:
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Did you miss when we elected Ronald Reagan into office twice? Tv stars appeal to the LCD voters who make up a majority of people.
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    Republicans would vote for Honey Boo Boo if she were old enough. What's really funny is that they tried to attack Obama by calling him a celebrity. Now they've nominated an egomaniac reality show star who makes Kanye West seem humble.
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    Reagan was out of acting for decades when elected president
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    Clinton left the White House with a surplus in the national treasury. Bush then bankrupted the nation in his quest. Hillary's a crook? We can't afford to send Don Quixote out on another Quest. He never FINDS anything and his windmills don't work!
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  17. Dayton Kitchens

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    So?
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  18. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    No.

    Clinton left the white house with PROJECTED yearly surpluses (which were not sustainable). Not a surplus in the treasury.
  19. RickDeckard

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    Incorrect IIRC.

    [​IMG]

    That's an actual budget surplus, which Bush then blew on tax cuts and on attacking Iraq.

    Case closed. All for now.
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    Gee, why doesn't that graph show anything before the Republicans took control of Congress in 1994?

    It is a mystery.
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  21. RickDeckard

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    Well, here's a longer-term graph.

    [​IMG]

    Clinton certainly wasn't any kind of economic savant. His dismantling of financial regulation led to the Great Recession ten years later. But on the narrow point of whether he left office running a budget surplus, he did and Dayton is typically uninformed.
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    That's very good and I applaud you posting it.
    That being said, do you know this much about what goes on in NI or the Republic of Ireland?
    How come you never post threads about it?
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    I do occasionally, and there is limited interest. Perhaps you should stop trying to imply that foreigners should keep their noses out of US-related topics.
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    I'm not implying anything of the sort.

    I am curious about your laser beam like focus on it though. It's all America, all the time, with hardly anything happening in the UK, ROI, or the entirety of Europe.

    Seems like an obsession.
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    Seems like you're not reading my posts then. I regularly discuss things like the European debt crisis, the Tory government and other world events. If there's a lot of US stuff too, that simply reflects the impact of the US on world affairs and the fact that this is a US-centric board in the first place.
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    I would be interested in hearing more about what's going on in Europe, FWIW.
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  27. El Chup

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    Bit of an unfair remark, since the Americans here vastly outnumber the Brits and Europeans. There are very few threads on British or European issues that gather traction here unless they are American posters critcising or mocking us over something or it being a major international impact issue, like Brexit or a general election. If Rick posted a thread on a domestic Irish or British political issue he'd likely get about 2 responses and the thread would die. I mean, if I posted a thread discussing, say, the suitability of Phillip Hammond as Chancellor, how many people would likely engage in the thread? Very few because, to be blunt, a lot of Americans are ignorant over British and European politics and would not be able to comment (and probably don't even know who 95% of British or European politicians are).
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    I don't disagree with this, but the board revolves around controversy's, not the day to day sausage making of politics. The Europeans can post some informative threads on internal happenings that are maybe controversial to gain some traction.

    Just in the ROI you could have:

    That RC's Magdalene laundry scandal that might be going to the Hague for crimes against Humanity.

    The continuing issue of how the UK and ROI are treating Thalidomide survivors.

    A thread railing about how oppressive the ROI is for still having abortion illegal, forcing Irish women to travel to England to get one.

    Those are just off the top of my head.
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  29. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    I'll be honest, I'd be surprised if any of those topics got a detailed response.

    But, ya know, you could always start posting such topics. There's no rule that they have to come from an Irishman or Briton.
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