Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge your leader is a joke?

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  1. Nova

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    Actually, the Francis Perkins - but the sort of mythologized Kennedy image is what I presume you were speaking of.

    Warren's the actual policy talent and intellectual force that Perkins was, AND the political force that you seldom find in combination with that. The coming year will be magical on the trail. Even if it's a hellscape in DC.
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    'Member Rudy's buddy who ran a company called "Fraud Guarantee" and got arrested not too long ago when it looked he was trying to flee the country? Everybody had a laugh at the name of his company, and now we know why he picked the name that he did. I'll just quote the relevant bits.
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    I don't think Chup would agree with ignoring the cancer that Trump is for a short term win that ultimately fixes nothing.
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    mage won’t be able to enact much of anything even if elected and btw she is still taking industry pac money just at the state level instead of the federal level plus he supposedly independent (but like all pacs that is just a myth) most certainly does take pac money so she has lots of cash she claims she wouldn’t accept.
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    Who is advocating for that? Sure as hell not me. I am talking about how Trump should be easily beatable but how Dems seem so obsessed with alienating centrist voters that it now looks like the odds are in Trump’s favor. That shouldn’t be happening but Dems really are driving off a cliff so that they are likely to lose AGAIN to the worst and most corrupt President in history.
    The lions have no where to go in our two party system so stop pandering to them. The center not only does have some where else to go but they did go for that someone else in 2016 and just might do so again in 2020 unless Dems unfuck themselves.
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  8. Nova

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    She got owned like 40 different ways on that one tweet
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  9. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Who is Mage?
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    Right?

    Let us bask in the long list of glorious centirist victories but cautious and reasonable Democrats!
    There's President Hillary Clinton, and President John Kerry! Al Gore! Michael Dukakis! Walter Mondale!

    Outside of Bill Clinton - who was basically endowed with a superpower level of charisma - you have to go back to the aftermath of Watergate to find an example of running to the middle actually getting a Dem elected. Yes, you can cite McGovern if you wt to argue that the political landscape of this country is basically exactly what it was FORTY-EIGHT FUCKING YEARS AGO.
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  11. Nova

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  12. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Record high stock market
    Record low unemployment
    Record low Hispanic unemployment
    Record low Black unemployment
    Impeachment is a pipe dream
    Leftists (Antifa) demonatrate every day who the real fascists are...

    Nobody is being fooled by the lefist maskirovka...

    Trump- landslide 2020.

    Get ready for 4 more years of prosperity and 'Murcia, fuck yeah, bitches.
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    Lol, talk of who the real fascists are from someone who supports armed threats against elected governments when they have policies you don't like.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I agree! Yes Trump has his "wall" failure which was inevitable, but when you're all alone in the voting booth you only get one pull of the handle so to speak.
    The tangible successes will outweigh the intangible failures in the majority of US voters' minds and fate will have it's way.
  16. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    There are more failures than that. Not only has the "wall" been very slow and border security barely improved, but he's also made only very little progress on immigration reform (deleting 'catch & release' has helped somewhat).

    Manufacturing, which saw job growth, is contracting, that's a negative. He promised 3% gdp growth but we're at mediocre 2%. OTOH, jobs is the single most important factor in an economy and jobs are at best levels in a century, and wage growth the best in decades. So the consumer numbers are strong (spending, confidence, savings) and it's just the business sector that's been weak (reportedly because of global recession or flatness, and from uncertainty about the War with China).

    To completely decouple from China (sever all ties) would take > decade and imo it's the single most important foreign policy threat currently on the table. China's directly responsible for killing tens of thousands of Americans plus they're the only actual "Nazis" on the planet (actually worse than nazi if it turns out true that they executes extra fallon gong for organ-donor tourism) - Trump's been a bit of a wuss on addressing those, although he's also the sole reason half the country has done a 180 about China's fake fluffy tail.

    Health care's also barely budged, though it's promising that drug costs have flattened at least, rather than increasing in prices at double-digit rates as past few decades. On the bright side, Trump got the Dems to admit Obamacare was (1) the worst lie ever told to the public in the first place, and (2) a horrible failure. : ) Glass is half full !
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    Um, you're delving into lunacy there Tut. What's your source?

    The Falun Gong believe interdimensional intelligent beings are helping them by placing some sort of entity in their abdomen. Other ones are evil. (He must be a Buckaroo Bonzai fan) China has labelled them a cult. They have found a home in upstate New York from whence they run recruitment and their media branches.

    They have a propaganda laced road-show. It's called Shen Yun.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/c...into-the-uncanny-unsettling-world-of-shen-yun


    They think Trump was sent to help them overthrow China so are ardent Trump supporters.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-n...ay-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121


    It all sorta makes sense now, doesn't it?

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    Please tell us the story about how Trump, and only Trump, is responsible for those things.
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  19. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    On this subject, I said "actually worse than nazi if it turns out true that they execute extra fallon gong for organ-donor tourism
    I obviously misspelled Falun Gong.

    If they're only using organs of prisoners they planned to execute anyway it (combined w China rounding up Uigur) puts China on the nazi-level. If executing EXTRA prisoners for organ 'harvesting' that would be a step beyond.


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    All of those point back to Falun Gong. They've mounted a massive propaganda putsch. Shen Yun is one arm. The Epoch Times is another.

    It would be hilarious if there weren't so many grown-ups buying in to it.
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    Agree, could be fake news.

    I used a lot of ifs.

    I don't always use ifs.

    I'm a China hawk even if extreme organ harvesting turns out false.

    China's the worst actor on the planet, we shouldn't need to buy our, e.g. drug precursors and medicine from it. My hope is that we will systematically detach ourselves from all business activity not mission critical (i.e. not absolutely essential to our national security or health etc.). They are the personification of the enemy of freedom.
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    Children tortured to death. Just saying. In case anyone cares. Children tortured to death.
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    are these things currently still happening on his watch? Yes they are, so he's responsible even if not the originator.
    That said if negative things are happening on his watch they are also his responsibility to own or fix. That's kinda how leadership works - it's a double edged sword most of the time.
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    They're slowing down under his watch. The only good thing he is responsible for in terms of stock markets and employment is that he only managed to ruin parts and not all of the Obama economy.
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    I’m sure you felt that way when similar things happened on Obama’s watch
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    Happened mostly under Obama.
    Happened mostly under Obama.
    Happened mostly under Obama.
    Happened mostly under Obama.
    Conviction is, anyway. Mostly because the Republican party is 95% composed of spineless cowards who will do anything to maintain power.
    Nobody outside the right-wing echo chamber gives a shit about antifa.
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    More people have died from gender reveal parties than from Antifa.
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    But I trust we can all agree that gander reveal parties are awesome.

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    Jesus, you're still alive?
    Why hasn't your liver turned into a self-lighting charcoal briquette by now?
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