Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge your leader is a joke?

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  1. shootER

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    Guess who doesn't agree? Spoiler: It isn't Aunt Alice.
    ETA: Bonus link that you won't read.
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    You really do not know what you’re talking about, do you? You read or hear something that sounds irrefutable, so you repeat the end result without the ability to argue how you (the author) got there.

    Bit of advice, if you can’t repeat the process, don’t accept the end result - especially if the argument sounds irrefutable.
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    Some graphs of note from WaPo - there are others there that I'll admit are problematic for Biden (inflation, interest rates, gas prices) but which are largely due to global factors rather than his policies. Also some that aren't actual economic measures (public confidence in the economy) because as FF proves, some folk don't look at actual facts. But these six are all pretty strong for Biden and either not great for Trump or show that he wasn't doing any better.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/23/trump-biden-us-economy-compared/

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    About the only thing I wouldn't wholly blame Trump on is 2020 (though he certainly was the worst person to be president to prepare and actually deal with it), especially since he did authorize the stimulus checks during the lockdowns and the student loan interest and payment moratorium -- and many people will give him points over Biden for that.
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  8. Steal Your Face

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    Here are some numbers on Trump's economy.
    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
    There's definitely some negatives in this report, but a lot of how people see a good economy has to do with what's in their wallets, what's in their bank account and what they can afford. So wages went up under Trump, but because of inflation it kind cancels things out.
    If you look at the poverty rate under Trump it's 37.2 million in 2020 and in 2022 it's 37.9 million under Biden.
    Under Biden poverty rates have increased.
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023/income-poverty-health-insurance-coverage.html

    This opinion piece does a good job explaining how Bidenomics stacks up compared to his predecessors. This is something the Biden team doesn't do and something Trump should do.
    https://rollcall.com/2024/01/31/bad-news-for-biden-on-inflation-voters-have-long-memories/
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    So it's not a problem of substance for Biden and you, it's messaging? :chris:
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    when your people use roadkill and broken washing machines to pick up hookers, 20k buys a fuckton of meth and hookers.
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    Nope, I pointed out clear differences between the economy under Trump vs the economy under Biden. It was better under Trump, the numbers don’t lie.
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    I have to hand it to you, this is some quality Trump-shilling instead of your usual. But just because you posted an up-to-date opinion piece last doesn’t mean we won’t notice that all your hard numbers for the Biden admin except inflation are 13+ months out of date.
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    Calculating economy and unemployment seems to change every year. What right wing politicians do is compare their numbers with the previous opposing administration without describing the differences in how each is calculated.

    Again, give me a spreadsheet and I can make the numbers say whatever you need them to say.

    If we don’t have ALLL the data, we have nothing to compare.
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    I’m sorry my facts hurt your feelings, but I didn’t just give you an opinion piece, which also contained facts by the way, I also gave you numbers and numbers don’t lie. Feel free to dispute those numbers though. I know you being the Biden schill that you are can’t admit that you’re wrong or that anything good happened while Trump was in office because you have terminal TDS, but it’s true that the economy was better and nothing you say can change that fact.
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    God forbid we should compare to the last guy when the last guy is running for president. Silly me.
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    Nothing except the 2023 numbers you excluded. Unfortunately for Trump, people lived through 2023, they didn’t stop at the end of 2022.
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    Only if you compare it when calculated the same way.

    But, way to be too stupid to understand my post.
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    How do you know it wasn't calculated in the same way and why is it important?
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    Because every administration will make those numbers say what they want them to say. They do it because they can. Why is it important? Because you can’t compare apples to oranges.
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    The 2023 numbers aren't out yet, these were the most up to date numbers I was able to find.
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    These numbers come from the census bureau and the article came from fact check.org, do you not trust the fact checkers?
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    I’m absolutely certain those facts check out. I can lead you to water, but I can’t make you think. Unless I have the spreadsheets, I don’t believe it.
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    Then it's a waste of time talking to you because you just want to talk feelings, not facts. There has to be some way to compare the two presidencies, this is the best way.
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    Like I've said many times, if it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any standards at all. Remember all of that rhetoric about how Trump was so bad because he called people vermin?
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    Not really, no
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    You’re the historian. You know how this works.
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    *Backtracks back to the channel*
    Ah. Recommended by Jimmy Dore and Glenn Greenwald, so you know it's quality.
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