Universal basic income vs government provided living utilities

Yeah, I think both communism and capitalism are relics of a resource based economic age in a much smaller world.

If we allow ourselves to return to established noble lineages, then unrest and dictatorships will inevitably follow. Probably some really amazing riots and shit in between those.

If there's no way for folks to make a living, well, they get tired of being hungry eventually.

Saw an article on FB today about an older lady in Portland, Oregon. Dead in a doorway, covered in snow after being evicted over something like 400$ in arrears.

Let that shit sink in.



They threw her out when she was so broke she couldn't even come up with $400.

I'll concede that it had probably accumulated for several months, sure. $50 short here, $25 there...They were probably pretty cool for the first few months about it, jsut ever since the Safeway closed and Whole Foods moved in, grocery dollar doesn't go so far on SS or whatever fixed pension she was eking out an existence with. I don't know, I was tied up soliciting donations to buy decent socks for a homeless shelter and only skimmed the link. Not bragging so much as pointing out the fact that housing has gotten so bad that the services available can no longer handle the number of homeless and displaced they face.

$400.

 

Had to look this up. $338, and she didn't show up for the court hearing so they defaulted judgement to the landlord.
http://www.wweek.com/news/city/2017...ia-was-evicted-for-being-late-on-338-in-rent/

Sha Iyhara.

 

Then let's see your sources.

As stated, the claim cannot even be true conceptually, since what is or isn't the New Testament was decided centuries after the original texts were written; there is, by definition, no original text of the NT. But assuming that you mean that all of the texts collected in the NT are currently available in their original wording, that would be an extremely unusual claim. It isn't true for any other text from antiquity. The standard assumption is always that texts change when they are being rewritten. Anything else requires positive evidence. And barring divine intervention as an explanation, as you do when you refer to secular scholars, what reason would there be to assume that these texts, differently from all other ancient sources, weren't subject to copying errors and redactions?

 

Bingo. Not to mention that since the texts now comprising the Bible were written over a period of, like, hundreds of years 'original text' is a phrase without much meaning here in the first place.

 

Actually, several were written within a few decades of the ministry of Christ.

The manuscript evidence for the Bible (New Testament) is overwhelming.

 

Communism at its core is not a "command economy" or any sort of centrally managed scheme. The "science" of communism assumes that ultimately people will work together for the common good of all, doing what needs to be done without coercion or even much in the way of oversight. Which is why I often note that it's a great system on paper, but in practical terms it runs afoul of actual human nature very quickly.

Marx was an interesting guy and had some refreshing insights, but in the end he severely misunderstood human nature.

 

This is a strange argument. For one, what we call the NT is pretty much what the church at large has always considered to be the NT. All of the Apocryphal NT books, Gnostic Gospels, etc. have been pretty much rejected by the church at large all along.

Furthermore, we know what the NT is now; Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, etc. All of those books and epistles had origins, and we know with high accuracy exactly what the original documents that comprise those books and epistles actually said.

That's not exactly what I am claiming. I am claiming that we have access to the original wording. That's not exactly the same thing.

We don't have multiple thousands (or even hundreds, or even tens) of exemplars for any other text from antiquity, so it's no surprise that what's true for the New Testament may not be true for other works of antiquity.

We KNOW that there were copying errors and redactions in some textual transmission streams; textual criticism is a fantastic and interesting discipline. I didn't say that the Textus Receptus for example, or P45, or even Codex Sinaiticus necessarily contain the precise wording of the autographs, but thanks to eclectic reasoning and other textual critical methods, we know with a high degree of confidence and probability what the original texts of the New Testament books and epistles said. The contrary view of this is in the minority, even with leading secular scholars. There's really not a lot of room to dispute this. Virtually no one expects that we'll one day find 1st century exemplars of any NT works that

 

A high degree of probability is a very different thing from actually being in possession of a text, with no doubt as to its content. But yes, as stated in this post I agree with you.

 

Cripes... only 52?

So she wasn't there as a senior in the first place... sounds more like she was already mentally compromised (or however you say "a little fucked in the head" politely now) and it got worse. The systems in place to support her didn't fail so much as are finite and limited in what they can do on her behalf.

She blew a court hearing that, and I don't think I'm out of line to assume, she wasn't psychologically capable to manage. I'll refrain from speculating on why she didn't pay the entire amount of that single month? If she did have a mental condition (and the getting naked part might be an indicator) drugs are dubious... although having gone off of her prescriptions wouldn't be... I'd be tempted to think she'd lost the cash to a thief given the only other explanation would be a delay in her benefits. Something that would've been mentioned and manageable.

I don't have answers to offer on this. Not that are flawless, at least. It takes a little longer to evict someone for arrears here, and the formalities can take upwards of 60 days... maybe that would've been enough time to figure her situation out? I dunno? Maybe if there'd been something more that could've been done during that six month decline... again, i don't know how to balance that? Just saddened that this isn't a unique thing, anywhere.

 

I figured the getting naked was part of the hypothermia that killed her