Virtual Reality

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  1. NeonMosfet

    NeonMosfet Probably a Dual

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    For the purposes of VR, which is better, an iMac or a Dell? i7 or rhyzen 5? A friend wants to set this up. I hate to see him spend more than necessary. The rep at Dell saw him as a rich pigeon and I think, told him to bend over; virtual reality is on the floor. What came to the house was an expensive pile of shit. I would tell him what to do, but VR is out of my league.
  2. Amaris

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    Firstly, I don't know his budget, but I can find some low cost, high power solutions. Here you go.

    What I'm running:

    AMD FX-6300 (3.5Ghz)
    24 GB DDR3 1333 RAM
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 2 GB Video Card
    HP Windows Mixed Reality Headset

    Grand total:
    $515.00

    But I built mine from scratch.

    Avoid Mac. For what you'll pay it's terribly underpowered. You can build a powerful, VR capable PC for 1/3 of the cost. Macs also don't work with Windows Mixed Reality, which is the least expensive VR option. You can build a fully VR capable PC, one that runs virtual reality smoothly, at 60-90Hz, in HD/4K, for far less than $1,000.


    If he wants something ready to go out the door, here's a few suggestions that will run VR setups without any problems:

    THE DESKTOPS

    This one's about $400.
    Acer Desktop (Intel i3, 8GB RAM):
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CYGHL92?th=1

    This one's about $500.
    Acer Desktop (Intel i5, 12GB RAM):
    https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Desktop-i5-7400-Windows-TC-780-ACKI5/dp/B073YHNPC6/ref=sr_1_3_acs_ac_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542431002&sr=1-3-acs&keywords=desktop pc

    This one's $620:
    Skytech Archangel (AMD Ryzen 3 1200, 8 GB RAM, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Video Card):
    https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-ArchAngel-Gaming-Computer-Desktop/dp/B01M3UKNVD/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1542431002&sr=1-13&keywords=desktop pc

    ^ You don't need to buy a card with that last one.


    THE VIDEO CARDS:

    This is $119.
    AMD Radeon RX550 4 GB Card
    https://www.amazon.com/XFX-AMD-Rade...?ie=UTF8&qid=1542432237&sr=8-2&keywords=RX550

    This is $129.
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 2 GB
    https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-GDDR5-Graphic-GV-N1050OC-2GD/dp/B01MG0733A/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1542432137&sr=1-1&keywords=GTX 1050


    THE MONITORS

    This one's $99.
    Sceptre 24" 1080p Monitor (75Hz)
    https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-E248...1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1542431310&sr=8-4&keywords=24"+MONITOR

    This one's $129.
    Sceptre Ultra Wide 27" 1080p Monitor (75Hz)
    https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-E275...1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1542431366&sr=8-4&keywords=27"+MONITOR


    THE VR GEAR

    Lenovo Explorer WMR Headset ($150)
    https://www.amazon.com/Explorer-Headset-Windows-Reality-G0A20001WW-pc/dp/B0764L8YL7/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1542431437&sr=8-7&keywords=HP windows mixed reality

    Oculus Rift Bundle ($400)
    https://www.amazon.com/Oculus-Touch...F8&qid=1542431517&sr=8-6&keywords=oculus&th=1


    If he buys the most expensive option in each category above, his cost will still come up to less than $1150.
    If he gets the least expensive option (and it will still run VR apps without any trouble!), he'll be paying only $750.

    $750 for a full VR capable set with everything, ready to go.
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  3. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    That's generally good but I would recommend going with at least an Nvidia 1060 for the video card.
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  4. Amaris

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    Well, I'm looking at budget. My 1050 has no problems playing Elite: Dangerous in VR, nor has issues watching 360° videos, or playing flight sims, all at 60Hz. It's at the lowest end of what I would recommend, but it does work quite well. The price gap between the 1050 and the 1060 is about 100+ dollars. You can almost buy 2 1050s for the price of one 1060. So it's just about budget. If they've got the money, I completely agree, though.
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  5. NeonMosfet

    NeonMosfet Probably a Dual

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    That's all great. I'll tell him. He wanted to drop 1800, and I'm still choking. I just don't know VR or I'd put him together a cheap but powerful system.
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  6. Soma

    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    GPU is the decisive factor for VR. I recommend an NVIDIA GTX 1060 or greater. CPU does not matter so long as it is modern. :)
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  7. NeonMosfet

    NeonMosfet Probably a Dual

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    Thanks. I'll tell him.
  8. Amaris

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    This. If he's got that kind of money, he can invest in a nice 1060, as @Bailey recommended as well. I always go for the "bargain basement but still works" method myself.
  9. Soma

    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    With a budget of 1800 and Black Friday/Cyber Monday around the corner, I would invest in a GTX 1080.
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  10. Amaris

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    Oh yeah, I forgot Black Friday is coming. Might be a few deals out there. Well, relatively speaking. Video cards are still way too expensive for what they are thanks to that damnable cryptomining.
  11. matthunter

    matthunter Ice Bear

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    Anyone got a view on the Oculus Go self-contained VR headset? Or better to wait for the Quest which is supposed to launch this year?
  12. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    All I know is that a new computer and an oculus setup might get me back into the realm of some good, sweaty exercise- like Worf with his holo-monsters, NOT Barclay with his Vulcan sex-slave and Riker-midget programs! ;)
  13. Tuckerfan

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    I'd hold off, because there's rumors that the Quest is going to be canceled. VR isn't taking off the way many people thought it would.