War Between Tamar and the New Board Owners?

What is at the root of it?

From my reading mostly every time Tamar makes a suggestion she is greated with accusations of being a troll, a drama queen, a manipulator of week minded staff, everything but baby eating. Anacalgon in particular replies to any of her post like someone just peed in his coffee.

So, what's the deal? And if it's some infantile struggle for nonexistent power on a goddamn BBS I'm going to be very disappointed.

Kick her out of the Shelter, ban her, or grow up.

She is only in the shelter so the new owners can kick her around a bit.

Seems like.

Ever since the failure of her and Scorps splinter board, all she does is come to WF to complain about how things are being run. It's quite telling that while she'll complain about other people not posting memorials she won't post any herself.

It's my long term goal in taking the board for myself. If that fails, I'm going to start accusing people of having illegitimate heirs in third world nations. If that plan fails, I'll just say they all voted for the Green Party, making certain to expunge my own record prior to that announcement.

Shit, I said that out loud, didn't I?

Well... ignore it. All is fine. Go back to whatever you were doing.

I'm a papa? And I might have a prince or princess I can help design better cities for in their country?

I voted for Nader once. I've seen the error of my ways...

You're dead to me.

Hey, don't call the staff "week minded"! Just because they shuffle around with calendars stapled to their foreheads, that's no excuse to insult them like that!

So what you're saying is, we should toss Bickendan on the same pile as your intellect, your conscience, and your chances for happiness?

Yeah, this again.

It's not my board and never was. It was Scorp's board and he created it just in case it was needed. He made it before the handover of WF from Lanzman. No one heard about it because there was no major problems. It's hard to be a failure when you never started to begin with. He seems to think this is some big "gotcha" but it isn't. It was an emergency backup plan that was never needed, not any kind of coup. Oh, and it's even more ridiculous to accuse Scorp and me of trying to take over WF when both of us turned down the opportunity to own it before it was ever offered to Ancalagon.

Damn right I complained about Discouragement. It was wrong and definitely a bad fit for Wordforge and the kind of community WF is and wants to be. I will never apologise for fighting when something like that is tried here.

I won't post memorials? I have written and posted 98% of every memorial or remembrance thread posted here for 8 years. I was proud to do so, but I don't work here anymore and frankly, I am a little burned out on it. Even so, when they forgot Sokar in March, I did it then. I haven't been around anywhere near as much as before, nor should I have to be because the current owners don't give a shit. Yes, I was disappointed, especially since I made it easy for someone else to do it in my absence with the Shelter thread...a thread which when I wrote it they stickied in the Shelter and you will note that no one said that they didn't need this thread, that no one would do it unless I did it or that "public displays" were odious to them. I was thanked and thought it was safely put in the new staff's hands.

I was wrong...maybe someone else among the membership would be willing to do it for awhile since clearly the staff doesn't care about it. The last couple I've done have seemed repetitive to me and I feel our departed members deserve better than that.

"Oh, and it's even more ridiculous to accuse Scorp and me of trying to take over WF when both of us turned down the opportunity to own it before it was ever offered to Ancalagon."

@Lanzman is this true? Both Tamar and Scorp turned down owning the board?

"Theh'zh notheng wrong with tittehzh and haggish. Tittehzh and haggish ah glorioush." --Sean Connery

Yup.

Now, if you sold the board to me, I'd have permabanned every one (including myself) but Packard, and had bots respond to his posts as a random member re-posting random posts from the Blue Room, and submitted the results for the Turner Prize...

From my point of view, that seems much indistinguishable from now.

I suspect Ecky's plan would have greatly improved the quality of debate.

Great, now you've said that I've @Ancalagon PMing me every 5 minutes asking for the code

This here is why people people think you're a twat not worth taking notice of.

At the end of the day. I think Tamar abused her position as admin to a certain degree, mainly in displaying a considerable bias towards the people she liked compared to people who either she didn't like or who questioned her actions. But that doesn't mean she is wrong on everything just because she is Tamar, which seems to be what is going on here. There seems to be a concerted effort now to degrade and marginalise her at every given opportunity, with childish nonsense about splinter boards and efforts to disagree with anything she says "just because".

It seems that, for the most part, the game here has stayed the same, it's just the players who have changed. I just find that a bit disappointing because the new set of players were the ones who made out they would depart from that sort of shit.

War Between the Gingers. You might want to stay out of the way.

Well in that case....

@Ancalagon needs to shut the fuck up about this splinter/protest board crap. If Scorp and Tamar had wanted to "take over" Wordforge they would have simply bought it from Lanzman.

Um, isn't MarkB a ginger?

@Ancalagon @gul

I know Anc likes to ignore lesser beings (pretty much the whole board) but hopefully he'll read this part you wrote again.

Nope, brown. What's left of it.

Aren't we all? I thought it was prerequisite.

Just b/c at the time it was offered they did not have the time/money/inclination (remember Lanz tried to offload it for years) doesn't mean that once we decided to take it up that they didn't react by quitting the board, making a splinter board and trying to recruit others they knew didn't like me/us to join.

If it really wasn't a splinter/protest board, it was just a backup, why hasn't Tamar posted the link so we can all check it out for ourselves?

As I have said repeatedly, I have no interest in Memorial threads and little knowledge of the posters. People who have the desire to create a memorial thread and the knowledge of the posters to do so should do it.

The fact that she hasn't done it, but has only complained about us not doing it tells me that like every other time she's come back it's just to rag the current staff.

Examples.

And if Scorp created the backup board just in case for the good of WF, why then did he quit the board when it wasn't necessary?