WB: We Need to Make More Franchise Movies!

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Because who doesn't want more and more sequels and reboots of stuff?
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    I mean, the DCEU/DCU seems like a lot of movies until you look at how far out ahead Marvel got.

    I could stand so see Freddy Krueger come back in some form.

    Fuck Harry Potter.
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    Freddy came back with the guy who played rorshack playing him. Not a terrible remake if you ask me. The old freddy just did a lot more sadistic joking rather than just being a sadistic slasher after the first movie.

    However, I think it would be interesting to go the dream warrior route and maybe get some more dream demons who were more like marvel or DC villains to fight. You could have some redemption arcs in there. If you kept the horror aspect you could do something a bit like Puella Magical Modoka with people contracting to become dream warriors, and you could bring in some real horror because it is dreamworlds.

    The whole mythos of the nightmare universe would be so adaptable to something beyond freddie. Alice and Freddyie's daughter are still around to start off the thing. They set up the dream demons in the last movie. You could set up something like in Modoka where the dream warriors are slowly being corrupted emotionally and mentally and might fall into being dream demons over time.
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  4. Diacanu

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    I dunno why they never barked up the tree of having Nancy's ghost be the anti-Freddy.
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    nuFreddy was actually a diddler, though, when the original was falsely accused. It's one thing for a wrongly murdered soul to come back seeking some form of righteous vengeance, but quite another for an appropriately punished predator to come back for no apparent reason other than to continue predatoring. Predating? Preditorializing? :chris:
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    Classic-Freddy turned into a girl's diddler-daddy in part 6, so Freddy doesn't give a shit, he'll go anywhere for a mind-fuck.
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    I thought that OG Freddy was just as guilty as the allegations said he was of raping and murdering kids.
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    Well, that gets murky. The rapey part, I mean.
    It was in the original script for part 1, but they cut it.
    But they flat out blurt it out in an episode of "Freddy's Nightmares".
    But the canonicity of FN is in question to put it mildly.
    It breaks down to that age old debate between onscreen vs author's intent.
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    I'm not as up on Freddy as others, but I don't think the reason he comes back is because he has a righteous beef at being wrongly accused. It's because he's so evil that he comes back from beyond the grave. It's telling that (AFAIK) he never/rarely tries to take direct action against the parents who actually killed him, but rather against kids.
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    I admit to not watching the movies that closely, but I'd always thought it was a something of a Candyman situation where the injustice of his death was what brought him back to life. Supernatural horror stories usually have some sort of a "this is happening because someone sinned, even if it's not the person suffering now" element to them, and wrongfully killing someone would qualify.

    "That creepy child murderer just loved murdering children too much to stay dead" is just... meh. :clyde:

    "Sins of the father" and all that, right? It felt poetic to me. "You killed me in a misguided attempt to protect your kids? Now I'll hurt your kids in a way so you can't possibly protect them."
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    Nope, his death was never unjust; just illegal.
    He did his crimes.

    Maybe lawbreaking to kill him tainted them with sin, and opened the door?
    :shrug:
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    No, freddie was a horrible child molestor the town people burned. He was not wrongfully accused. He was given powers because he was so perverse and evil.
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    Well, that sucks. What sort of loving God would allow that? :(
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    That's why Nancy needs to be anti-Freddy, or the universe collapses.
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    Getting back to the broader topic of WB franchises, it's more that the WB doesn't really know what to do with the franchises it has. Which isn't really necessarily WB's fault. Outside of Marvel, F&F and the Mission Impossible franchises, I'd be hardpressed to think of any franchise that was 5 or more films that you could regard as broadly commercially and critically successful.

    There probably is a fair amount of leeway that they have for revitalizing/revisiting WB franchises. Yes, I would prefer original content, but it's not very likely to happen.

    To take a quick run thru WB intellectual property:

    DC: It's pretty well documented how DC stunk up the joint with the Snyderverse. James Gunn made some of the best content for Marvel and DC. Hopefully he can turn things around.

    The Matrix: Resurrections, and really, the other sequels were all pretty bad. There are far more stories out there to tell than variations about what happened to Neo and Trinity, from the original war between the humans and the machines that led to the Matrix to the sorts of stories featured in the Animatrix, to stories that make better use of the changing nature of how we interact with computers since 2000.

    Space Jam: There's probably room for more comedy crossovers between Looney Tunes characters and athletes. Space Slam with Jon Cena? Or Serena and/or Venus Williams? A whole Olympics thing where they combine people like Simone Biles or whoever?

    Godzilla vs. Kong II: It seems like it is hard to mess up the movie people want: having two big ass monsters kick the crap out of each other and other monsters. But seems like someone could rectify the mess of that.

    Pacific Rim: similar deal.

    Lethal Weapon: It would be interesting to see an updated version of the 80s buddy movie that is mindful of how people think about cops in the 2020s. The threat isn't from special forces trying to use their Vietnam War connections to deal drugs, but from bent cops within LAPD or something. I didn't bother to watch the tv show version.
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    Y'know how Gremlins 2 got all meta with their Warner Bros commentary?
    Bring back Gremlins, and keep piling on the meta.
    Gremlins could be their Deadpool.
    No matter how bad they stink up the other franchises, Gremlins gets to rip on 'em, and give everyone catharsis.
    Win-win.
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    Warner Brothers has a great deal of franchises that they could bank off of if they did it right. Scooby Doo. They tried and failed. They could do The Flinstones and The Jetsons. Yogi Bear. They're doing alright with The Smurfs. I would do the Hanna Barbara line up all hand drawn or at least make it look hand drawn. No live action. Get good voice actors, no stunt casting. Simple plots. Small budgets, tight scripts.

    They have Police Academy. I'm sure there's a joke in there about a cadet accidentally shooting an unarmed black man in the back as he's running away.

    They could give Tarzan another go.
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    Tarzan's public domain and has been since probably the 1970s and Disney's already done a couple of incarnations of the character, so, you know, not going to happen unless somebody whips up a nearly instantly iconic film version of the character, the way Disney did with Snow White.
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    Twist: every conservative is actually from v1.04 of the Matrix where they tried with chimps.
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    Well that has to top the list of stupid ideas for 2024. And sadly, there are a lot of stupid ideas already this year. :sigh:
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    YEAH , a new Matrix sequel is a pretty retarded idea. Especially after how the last one was a bigger bomb than both Hiroshima & Nagasaki COMBINED!
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    Even though the Fantastic Beasts thing was kind of meh I'd love to see some more of the Harry Potter universe

    Think they are doing a show for HBO Max
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    The show is just a rethread of books 1-7 with maybe a few more book scenes that were cut from the films. I could understand the justification on a TV series in 30 years or so, but the movies are holding up fine and still popular enough that a new TV show just feels redundant still.

    Those poor kids are gonna take so much shoe from people on all sides of The Discourse™ though :(
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