What If...?

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  1. We Are Borg

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    How in the holy heck did we miss this?

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    Go woke go broke! Cap is a MAN!
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    ...what iiif yyoooouu've found you've maaaaade a mistaaaaake!!??
    Whaaaat iiiffff?? Whhaaaat iiiif it's wooooorth the chances you're taaaaakiiiinng???

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    What if I were Romeo in black jeans?



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    I used to read the occasional What If comic when I was a kid. Lady Captain Britain if not a woke invention. I used to really enjoy them. It was an opportunity for the writers and artist to step outside of canon and just go wild. I'm definitely onboard for this. Any idea when?
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  7. We Are Borg

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    Originally scheduled for Spring 2021 but not sure if COVID wrecked those plans or not.
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    I had a love-hate relationship with Marvel's What If? series. Most of them were interesting takes, but most of them were also "everyone dies horribly."
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    What if Black Panther was white.

    Before anyone complains that could have an interesting take on racism and an alternate history of the world where white people were not the majority of superheroes and whatnot. Don't totally kill me for bringing up that idea when I know it normally would come from a bad place.

    My point is while you have the racist and sexist fanbois crying you could toss that in there as a sort of token for them for the ultimate in throwing their own bullshit at them. Look, we gave you a white black panther so all of your points are now invalid because we did it to him also.You might be able to do that with a captain marvel also.

    Beyond that, I actually might be somewhat interested in this given my complete boredom and lack of caring about the present MCU. I think this sort of mix mash brings out the real love of the character itself and how it can morph to other diverse perspectives while maintaining it's essence. This one seems like it might actually be interesting and look deep into the characters rather than just being about their powers.
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    Sounds kind like gender-flipping What Ifs. What if Africa was white and Europe was black kind of thing.
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    Like Farnham's Freehold.
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    Or the Sydney Poiter movie “White Man’s Burden”
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    latest looks pretty interesting, particularly like the art style. I'll be watching.
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    First episode is out!
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    Just finished it. I liked it and although it doesn't seem directly linked to the events that ended Loki, it sort of goes well with it. It's hard to imagine they intended this from the start given the delayed and altered release schedule due to COVID.

    The animation style seems to be computer enhanced and I have to say that it looks very good. The animated nature puts the camera angle in places that are just too hard to do in live action sequences. I found myself breath-taken in a few spots. I hope the rest of the series can live up to this standard. If this first episode is any indication of what we're about to get, we are in for something special!
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  18. We Are Borg

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    It's the MCU. They map stuff out years in advance, or at least ret-con stuff so it fits together.
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    Talk about Punching Nazis! Well, Hydra, but still. This was a very strong What If?.. and I like some of Bucky's "old timey" phrases. The animation was great too.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Nope, technology is such now they can give CG that squishy Disney hand drawn look.
    That was all CG.
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    I dig it. And I would watch the shit out of a Captain Carter series. :nana:
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  22. We Are Borg

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    That was a great start to the series.

    Anyone know why Chris Evans wasn't voicing Steve Rogers? I had thought all the MCU actors had signed on. It jarred me a bit, kind of like those shitty Star Wars story records from the 1970s where a bunch of no-name actors voiced the major characters.

    EDIT: Never mind, I was wrong. Two of the biggest actors didn't sign on.

    https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a37270708/marvel-what-if-chris-evans-robert-downey-jr/
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    I read they didn't even approach Dave Bautista to do the voice for Drax. I'm guessing they're saving their money for the most pivotal roles?

    It kinda worked for me anyway, since I'm so used to Chris Evans as the voice of super soldier Captain America and not scrawny little Steve Rogers.
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    I liked it. Right up to ...

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    You do know this series is about alternate realities, right? :jayzus:
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    yes, but the show opens with "one decision" Agent Carter made. I fail to see how that one decision suddenly gives Howard the idea to build the same hulk-sized suit Tony made 50 years later for completely different reasons. and then close to the end, they repeated the same line "one decision".

    They obviously couldn't just let a woman be the hero.
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    The premise of the show is that one small thing can set off a chain reaction of things. In this case, Captain Carter was able to get the Tesseract -- something main universe Cap did not manage. That put it into Howard's hands. Howard is a weapons designer and given a power source as major as the Tesseract, it makes sense that he would come up with a singular weapon. Instead of looking at it as something that diminishes Captain Carter as a hero, maybe consider that the show actually showed Steve Rogers as second fiddle to Captain Carter throughout and still had Captain Carter make an even bigger (and more meaningful) sacrifice than Steve. (There really was no need for Cap to crash the plane in the ocean and go down with it).
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    I don't think it's unreasonable for an American hanging out in Europe designing weapons to think "what about a suit of armour, like a medieval knight?" :shrug:

    I'm also just going to assume the armour was perfectly sized for scrawny Steve, thus allowing Howard to prevent the military from handing it over to anyone else without being too obvious about it.
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    I understand the premise just fine and accept the sacrifices of both and even how the oppositional gender roles played out.

    I’m not talking about that.

    I’m talking about Carter didn’t get a suit when Steve got the injection. Why couldn’t they just write it so Peggy was the one and only on top. And it has nothing to do with the MCU or what characteristics a character has. It has to do with Hollywood writing.