What's w/ all the RR thread moving?

Discussion in 'The Help Desk' started by The Original Faceman, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    I count almost 10. New campaign to clean up the place?
  2. Sherlock Holmes

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    Can't be... I mean you are still in there. ;)


    I kid, I kid...
  3. Zodiac

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    Yes he does dirty the Red Room.

    j/k lol
  4. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I moved the threads because I felt they belonged in The Green Room.

    And watch yourself in here, gentlemen. Another comment like that and you're getting warned.
  5. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Why don't we rename The Green Room and start calling it The Black Hole?

    Threads get moved there and disappear beyond the event horizon. :rolleyes:
  6. LizK

    LizK Sort of lurker

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    Which threads? :unsure:
  7. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    There were several threads that got moved. It left me thinking WTF! :wtf:

    Move a thread to GR and it's pretty much certain death.
  8. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    That's not really true anymore. There is plenty of traffic in the Green Room.

    Some topics just aren't Red Room material and should be started elsewhere. And when they aren't they will be moved there. This is well known for years now..it really shouldn't even be something that is surprising at this point.

    Everyone has lapses..it's not a huge deal but it would be cool if people made an effort to try and remember.
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  9. Kyle

    Kyle You will regret this!

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    You know that's almost the same reasoning that Flashlight used when he used to start threads that belonged in Media Central in the Red Room, right?

    Do you really want to to follow that example?
  10. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I don't know which threads Face is referring to, but it isn't it possible that the thread starters put their topics in the Red Room for a reason?
  11. Aurora

    Aurora VincerĂ²!

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    Yea. Attention whorery.
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  12. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Actually, I think there are two main reasons folks start threads in the Red Room that don't necessarily belong there. First, it's the highest-traffic forum, therefore they assume their thread will get more attention. Second, they want (almost) unmoderated responses, which is the whole point of the Red Room. So it's understandable to me why we get threads talking about, say, last night's episode of Program X being started in the Red Room rather than Media Central.
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  13. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    I put the Groundhog Day thread in RR for some fun, lively, open discussion. RR wasn't real active yesterday and I think several of us were trying to liven the place up a bit. Sometimes thread topics are borderline GR/RR. It's the type of discussion we're going for that is the deciding factor.
  14. Tamar Garish

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    Given that the Red Room is for contentious topics ect, and the owner would like to keep the community threads in the Green Room, what would you suggest?
  15. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Maybe PM the thread starter and discuss it first. :shrug:
  16. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Well, what thread goes where is pretty clear in the room descriptions. It is going to make a great deal more unnecessary work to discuss something that should have been obvious to begin with.

    We try to be accomodating, but thread starters do not over-ride the board guidelines when it comes to the staff doing its job.

    One of the threads moved was mine, in fact. No one is immune from getting their thread moved if it is in the wrong place.
  17. The Exception

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    [eliteforge]
    If you don't like it, start your own board!
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    :P

    I kid tho.
  18. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    Yes :borg:
  20. Tamar Garish

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  21. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    What if the poster started a thread in the Red Room for the sole purpose of having it unmoderated? I always hesitate to post outside of the Red Room for certain topics because I'm not sure if someone's gonna take offense to it and then I end up getting warned. Shouldn't we be allowed to have unmoderated threads? Or should we at least be able to designate threads outside the RR to have similar rules as the RR?
  22. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    I've said since day one that that will never happen while I own the board. In fact, I'm totally and completely against allowing "Red Room Rules" threads in The Blue Room. I hotly disagreed with that decision, but it was made before I took control of the board. I just haven't thought about reversing that policy.

    This isn't a new policy, ladies and gentlemen. The only reason we're discussing this is because there have been some failures on our part to follow already established guidelines.
  23. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Keep in mind that I'm not trying to be a WF Problem Child over this.

    It's aggravating when threads get moved because the thread either dies or goes in a direction that the OP didn't intend, or doesn't go in the direction that the OP did intend. Sometimes threads do that on their own anyway.

    Just my opinion. :shrug:
  24. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Don't worry...it takes a lot more than a differing opinion to be a "problem child" :lol:

    I understand how you feel, but we do have different forums for a reason or we would just have one big Red Room thread and nothing else.
  25. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Well, what's your reason against it?

    It would create more traffic in non-RR rooms, and would allow for posters to engage in RR-style "heated debate" in forums related to the topic at hand.

    Say someone wanted to start a debate thread about Mac vs. PC in the RR. If you then move it to Geekforge because it falls under that category, the style of debate that would have been allowed in the RR would most certainly not be allowed in Geekforge.
  26. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    No offense, but that's a pretty stupid argument. One thread of discussion for an entire board is the only other option?
  27. $corp

    $corp Dirty Old Chinaman

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    Tough dilemna. I completely understand the logic of starting something in the Red Room. Generally, it seems whenever a thread is moved, it ends up dying in one of the other rooms. Media Central isn't too bad anymore, but I certainly would not want my thread moved to a virtually dead forum. And I also realize we really shouldn't have nonsensical threads and whimsical threads overruning the Red Room either.

    How about a compromise? Why don't the mods allow the thread to stay it's course for, say, 8-12 hours? Most people who start GR or MC threads in the RR are just hoping for a bit of exposure to their topic, and probably won't mind them being moved later, when the conversation has picked up.

    And also - sometimes, I read a good RR thread, and then a few hours later, I can't find it! Then I end up going into my user CP, looking up my own posts (assuming I even replied to the topic) and then find out it's been moved to the Green Room or a different room! :mad:

    Maybe you guys could just move the thread and have a marker that says: "Moved:" I remember the board used to do this, but for some reason, it disappeared. That is not a good thing. The "Moved:" marker allowed me to at least click the moved thread and reply into the room where it had been moved, wherelse the current system has the thread disappear altogether! I liked it better before.

    So yeah - most people are not in it to cause trouble, but it's kinda the nature of how this place is in the first place. Maybe you guys want to move it quickly to encourage more participation in those rooms, but for me at least, I visit the Green Room maybe a few times a week. Moving a bunch of threads there isn't really going to make me click into that room more.
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  28. Aurora

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    What's the point of a thread? Quantity or quality? The other rooms with their stricter rules are there so that WF can sustain a certain level of quality. Look at TK - I don't know why they even bother with different fora, it's all the same feces slinging anyway, everywhere. It's different on WF and people who are, like, actually interested in discussing the latest episode of ROME will look into MC. Or do you think there's anybody here who has yet to find the other places?
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  29. Linda R.

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    Blue and Green are hardly dead, either. Both have their followers, both have some really good threads. If traffic is a bit slower there, that's all for the good: it makes it easier to keep up with threads that need to be sustained over several weeks.
    Can you imagine what would happen to the Scrabble game in Red?
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  30. foil1212

    foil1212 Jose "Mom Fan" Alvarez Staff Member Moderator

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    what if you post a thread meaning to get some kind of shit-flinging red room reaction then it gets moved to the green room? I know this has happened to me before.