Whelp, Ron Paul doesn't believe in evolution.

14thDoctor · Jan 2, 2012

Diacanu said: ↑

Ward said: ↑

a) Prove that the RC church (or any Christian church, for that matter) is still conducting Inquisitions and imprisoning people for their scientific positions. b) disprove that there aren't some extremists who follow Islam.
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No one's getting executed, but you get the sense they'd like to, what with Popey McPoperson blaming the world's problems on "secular modernity",
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Funny thing... remember when the Muslims were killing people over cartoons?

Guess who the pope sympathized with on that one?

In the midst of the Mohammed cartoon controversy, Benedict XVI is insisting that understanding between peoples implies respect for their religious symbols.

"In the international context we are living at present, the Catholic Church continues convinced that, to foster peace and understanding between peoples and men, it is necessary and urgent that religions and their symbols be respected," the Pope said today.

The Holy Father added that this implies that "believers not be the object of provocations that wound their lives and religious sentiments."

At the same time, Benedict XVI made it clear that "intolerance and violence can never be justified as response to offenses, as they are not compatible responses with the sacred principles of religion."

The Pope made this analysis when receiving the letters of credence of Ali Achour, Morocco's new ambassador to the Holy See. The Bishop of Rome said that Morocco wishes to be involved in the "consolidation of the dialogue between civilizations, cultures and religions."

He said that one must "deplore the actions of those who deliberately take advantage of the offense caused to religious sentiments to foment violent acts, and with greater reason when they take place with ends foreign to those of religion."

Benedict XVI noted that "for believers, as for all people of good will, the only path that can lead to peace and fraternity is respect for the convictions and religious practices of others."

The Holy Father requested that this respect be guaranteed "in a reciprocal manner in all societies," to ensure for all "the exercise of the religion freely chosen."
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http://www.zenit.org/article-15327?l=english

Granted, he throws in the token "violence is never acceptable" disclaimer, but he makes it pretty clear that if you're going to disrespect any religion, you should expect violent retribution as a result.

Diacanu · Jan 2, 2012

Yeah, that didn't budge a quark in my being with surprise...

oldfella1962 · Jan 3, 2012

The Pope? Great guy. I hear he does "speed dating" at Toys-R-Us.

Ward · Jan 3, 2012

14thDoctor said: ↑

Diacanu said: ↑

Ward said: ↑

a) Prove that the RC church (or any Christian church, for that matter) is still conducting Inquisitions and imprisoning people for their scientific positions. b) disprove that there aren't some extremists who follow Islam.
Click to expand...

No one's getting executed, but you get the sense they'd like to, what with Popey McPoperson blaming the world's problems on "secular modernity",
Click to expand...

Funny thing... remember when the Muslims were killing people over cartoons?

Guess who the pope sympathized with on that one?

In the midst of the Mohammed cartoon controversy, Benedict XVI is insisting that understanding between peoples implies respect for their religious symbols.

"In the international context we are living at present, the Catholic Church continues convinced that, to foster peace and understanding between peoples and men, it is necessary and urgent that religions and their symbols be respected," the Pope said today.

The Holy Father added that this implies that "believers not be the object of provocations that wound their lives and religious sentiments."

At the same time, Benedict XVI made it clear that "intolerance and violence can never be justified as response to offenses, as they are not compatible responses with the sacred principles of religion."

The Pope made this analysis when receiving the letters of credence of Ali Achour, Morocco's new ambassador to the Holy See. The Bishop of Rome said that Morocco wishes to be involved in the "consolidation of the dialogue between civilizations, cultures and religions."

He said that one must "deplore the actions of those who deliberately take advantage of the offense caused to religious sentiments to foment violent acts, and with greater reason when they take place with ends foreign to those of religion."

Benedict XVI noted that "for believers, as for all people of good will, the only path that can lead to peace and fraternity is respect for the convictions and religious practices of others."

The Holy Father requested that this respect be guaranteed "in a reciprocal manner in all societies," to ensure for all "the exercise of the religion freely chosen."
Click to expand...

http://www.zenit.org/article-15327?l=english

Granted, he throws in the token "violence is never acceptable" disclaimer, but he makes it pretty clear that if you're going to disrespect any religion, you should expect violent retribution as a result.
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Nice hedge there, doc. Or should I say, cool story, bro? <more pointing and laughing>

You've just shown, again, how Christianity and Islam are different.

Thanks.

Bailey · Jan 3, 2012

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Ward agrees: So you can't do what I originally asked so you change, huh?
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Changing what? You said that Muslims are the only ones still doing those things, that means the burden of proof is on you to show them doing something that other religions or lack thereof aren't.
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No. you're reading what you wanted to read in what I posted.
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Really?

Ward said:

As you point out, NM, the majority of religious people, including the RC church, don't go nearly that far these days. In fact, the only ones that come close to that level of persecution are some of our buddies who follow the Koran in a too-strict manner.
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Exactly how did I misread that?
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Bump.
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Bringing this to the next page.

Bailey · Jan 3, 2012

Ward said: ↑

14thDoctor said: ↑

Diacanu said: ↑

Ward said: ↑

a) Prove that the RC church (or any Christian church, for that matter) is still conducting Inquisitions and imprisoning people for their scientific positions. b) disprove that there aren't some extremists who follow Islam.
Click to expand...

No one's getting executed, but you get the sense they'd like to, what with Popey McPoperson blaming the world's problems on "secular modernity",
Click to expand...

Funny thing... remember when the Muslims were killing people over cartoons?

Guess who the pope sympathized with on that one?

In the midst of the Mohammed cartoon controversy, Benedict XVI is insisting that understanding between peoples implies respect for their religious symbols.

"In the international context we are living at present, the Catholic Church continues convinced that, to foster peace and understanding between peoples and men, it is necessary and urgent that religions and their symbols be respected," the Pope said today.

The Holy Father added that this implies that "believers not be the object of provocations that wound their lives and religious sentiments."

At the same time, Benedict XVI made it clear that "intolerance and violence can never be justified as response to offenses, as they are not compatible responses with the sacred principles of religion."

The Pope made this analysis when receiving the letters of credence of Ali Achour, Morocco's new ambassador to the Holy See. The Bishop of Rome said that Morocco wishes to be involved in the "consolidation of the dialogue between civilizations, cultures and religions."

He said that one must "deplore the actions of those who deliberately take advantage of the offense caused to religious sentiments to foment violent acts, and with greater reason when they take place with ends foreign to those of religion."

Benedict XVI noted that "for believers, as for all people of good will, the only path that can lead to peace and fraternity is respect for the convictions and religious practices of others."

The Holy Father requested that this respect be guaranteed "in a reciprocal manner in all societies," to ensure for all "the exercise of the religion freely chosen."
Click to expand...

http://www.zenit.org/article-15327?l=english

Granted, he throws in the token "violence is never acceptable" disclaimer, but he makes it pretty clear that if you're going to disrespect any religion, you should expect violent retribution as a result.
Click to expand...

Nice hedge there, doc. Or should I say, cool story, bro? <more pointing and laughing>

You've just shown, again, how Christianity and Islam are different.

Thanks.
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Pope represents all Christians, that's a new one.

actormike · Jan 3, 2012

Ward said:

You've just shown, again, how Christianity and Islam are different.
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Of course they're different. All religions are different from each other. Branches of Christianity are vastly different from each other. What's your point.

Diacanu · Jan 3, 2012

actormike said: ↑

Ward said:

You've just shown, again, how Christianity and Islam are different.
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Of course they're different. All religions are different from each other. Branches of Christianity are vastly different from each other. What's your point.
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Christianity is less-horrible, in the moment, so therefore, it's good.
Praise Jesus!

garamet · Jan 3, 2012

Diacanu said: ↑

actormike said: ↑

Ward said:

You've just shown, again, how Christianity and Islam are different.
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Of course they're different. All religions are different from each other. Branches of Christianity are vastly different from each other. What's your point.
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Christianity is less-horrible, in the moment, so therefore, it's good.
Praise Jesus!
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It's the White Man's Burden. "We got away with it for centuries, but now we're all righteous." Applies to religion as much as to burning coal.

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